Michael Crawley is a runner, writer and social anthropologist based in Durham. He has been a runner for over 20 years, and ran a 2:20 marathon in 2018. His first book, Out of Thin Air: Running Wisdom and Magic from Above the Clouds in Ethiopia, documents his time living and training alongside runners in Ethiopia, while his latest book, To the Limit: The Meaning of Endurance from Mexico to the Himalayas, takes a similarly immersive approach, featuring overnight bike rides, ultra marathons and runs into sweltering canyons in Mexico. Here he faces questions from a live audience over Zoom.

Podcast host Adharanand Finn is the author of three award-winning books, Running with the Kenyans (2012), The Way of the Runner (2014), and the Rise of the Ultra Runners (2019). Follow The Way of the Runner podcast on Instagram: @thewayoftherunner or find it at thewayoftherunner.com

The podcast is supported by Adharanand’s Patreon page, which is full of original and exclusive material: patreon.com/adharanandfinn

Music by Starfrosch