If our commitment is that every child grow up in a safe and loving family, how do we address that so many children are living in orphanages that are unregistered and operating outside of the public eye? It's challenging work to map, find and even collaborate with such institutions, but we've got the right guides to learn from. Brandon is joined today by Obed Masese and Meredith Caleb of Victory Child Empowerment to learn what is causing children in Kenya to go into orphanages of all types and what their team is doing to map unregistered orphanages with a broader care reform approach.

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Conversation Notes

• How Obed's family and village raised him and recognizing this used to be the norm
• Has the Kenyan Child Act of 2022 successfully been implemented?
• The differences between national policies and county implementation
• Paper orphans and paper orphanages
• The challenges of working with and among unregistered orphanages
• Care reform that promotes the development and mapping of new community services

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Did you know that 90% of the persecution that Christians face throughout the world comes from one region? Nigeria has seen a trajectory of violence aimed at Christians in recent years and in today's episode we're unpacking all the layers behind targeted massacres in the area. Joining the show are Clint Lyons and Paul U. who are with iReach Global, a Christian nonprofit that is serving the church and creating bridges of peace in the country.

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Conversation Notes

• An introductory word from Brandon about the violence that we see in the world and if it's okay to treat certain violence as justified by Christians
• Paul describes a recent massacre that took place in a Nigerian village
• Understanding the targeted violence by Muslim Fulani herdsmen pointed towards Nigerian Christians
• The intersections of religion and vocation and the multilayered nature of conflict
• Understanding the gradients between African folk religion and Islam

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This year has seen a tremendous amount of change for Christian NGOs doing transformational development throughout the world. In many ways, we are entering a new era of global mission and international development. To talk about some of those changes and to help us keep a pulse on what God is up to, we’re joined by Michael Cerna who serves as the CEO at the Accord Network. Building on topics from Accord’s Thursday Three weekly newsletter, Michael talks with Brandon Stiver about recent reports, articles and resources that are charting a path forward for us.

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Interesting Times by Ross Douthat : Under Trump, Is Foreign Aid ‘Our Problem?’ 

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The Nonprofit Times : Next Generations Christians Will Give Differently

Conversation Notes

• Updates from the Accord Network and the upcoming One Accord Conference in Washington DC
• Reflections from prayer and advocacy with Bread for the World
• Ross Douthat’s eye-opening conversation with Jeremy Lewin from the Department of Government Efficiency and State Department’s shuttering of USAID
• Reflections on the recent article in International Affairs “The End of the Age of NGOs?”
• In what ways are Christian Millenials giving differently as they inherit the wealth of older generations

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There is no place on Earth that God is not working. Even in authoritarian regimes that make following Christ illegal, He still moves. Iran is one of those countries. While we hear about Iran pretty regularly in the news, we don't typically hear about what God is doing through His Spirit and in His Church there. Today we're joined by the CEO of Transform Iran, Lana Silk. She talks with Brandon Stiver about the geopolitics of the country, what it was like for her growing up in Iran and most importantly, how the gospel is spreading among communities there.

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Conversation Notes

• The brainwashing of students in Iran
• The theology component of Jesus in Islam - differences and shared reverence
• Where the Koran came from in the views of a Muslim
• Understanding the various viewpoints that different Muslims might hold
• Modern history of Iran and the geopolitical reality we live in
• Is Iran exporting Shiite Islam throughout the world?
• The Christian experience in Iran (including its illegality)
• Lana’s own family background and how the Gospel came to her family
• The spreading of the underground church in Iran
• The hybrid model of Transform Iran’s ministry
• Stories of how people have found Jesus in Iran
• A new AI tool that can counsel and pray for Iranian Christians

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Families are the center piece of how God created societies to flourish, yet there are so many things that can tear down this fundamental part of God's design. We know that orphanages are spread out throughout the world and we know that those children should be allowed to grow up in families. In today's episode, we have Chantry Mweemba of Alliance for Children Everywhere joining to dive deeper into the effects of urbanization, education access and other factors that are leading children in Zambia to separate from their families. We also get into how the recent USAID closure is negatively affecting the protection of children in Zambia and how organizations like ACE are continuing to step up for children even in the midst of uncertain times.

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Conversation Notes

• Chantry’s background in child rights and care reform
• God’s idea of a global family that transcends the nuclear family
• The resulting isolation of developing urban areas in the Global South
• The paradox of advocacy that led to development that led to growing inequality
• The work that ACE is doing to contribute to the broader picture of promoting family in Africa
• The connection between orphanages and education
• How the closing of USAID affected child protection efforts in Zambia
• An estimated 14 million people will die in the next five years as a result of the USAID closure

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One of our great passions behind the show is equipping practitioners globally to serve the poor and develop communities. Today's episode is all about that. We've invited our friend Jeremy Macias back onto the show to share with us about the "messy middle" of monitoring and evaluation and the critical role that it plays in community interventions. Jeremy works with World Relief and shares some of his experiences developing monitoring and evaluation frameworks with different organizations over the years. Then, Brandon dives into the Apostle Paul's words from Romans 12 as an ethical framework for understanding Romans 13, but really all of Christian life. Lastly, we've got some gifts that we want to share with you! You've heard Brandon's book recommendation for years, now it's time to give some away.

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Conversation Notes

• Going from telling individual stories to community wide data
• Being apprehensive to look under the hood with the projects that we're doing
• Connecting the work on the ground with the loftier vision of the organization
• Explaining theory of change and how you develop one
• Engaging the community you're walking alongside in doing M&E
• Working a logframe horizontally and vertically while asking 'why?'
• A short devotion on Romans 12: 9-21
• Equipping TGDJ listeners through leading books in Christian development, orphan care, missions and theology

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  • The Locust Effect by Gary Haugen and Victor Boutros
  • Orphan Justice by Johnny Carr
  • Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger by Ronald Sider
  • Generous Justice by Tim Keller
  • When Helping Hurts by Brian Fikkert and Steve Corbett

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There is no more salient, no more pressing global event right now for the Church to engage than what is happening currently in Gaza. Gaza presents not just a lightning rod for conversation (or controversy), but also serves as a moral compass for all humankind. The global Church is wrestling with questions like, "is Israel justified in their offensive?" "how do we understand the theology and politics in play?" and "are we watching a genocide unfold before our eyes?" To help us understand the broader history and context around Gaza, we've invited Dr. Ben Norquist from Churches for Middle East Peace to the show. He sits down with Brandon Stiver to discuss all things surrounding the conflict and most importantly the decades leading up to what we see in 2025. Join us in this conversation and join us in praying and acting for peace.

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Christ in the Rubble by Munther Isaac

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Conversation Notes

• The difference between a 'thin' Gospel and a 'thick' Gospel
• Growing up in evangelicalism and what that means for supporting modern day Israel
• Understanding the historical context of Gaza
• What is the Nakba? 
• What were the Intafadas?
• How the Balfour Declaration laid a framework for the land that continues to reverberate over a hundred years later
• Comparing the current conflict and humanitarian crisis to the UN definition of genocide

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The podcast is back from our summer break, but we're still in vacation travel mode! We're joined by author and photographer Ashley Campbell who is on the show to share about her new book "I've Never Been Here Before" and what it looks like to lead a big family on a big adventure around the world. From Morocco and Albania to the Philippines and Colombia, Ashley shares insight that isn't just about being a travel guide, but what it looks like to raise children that are truly global citizens. She sits down to talk with Brandon Stiver about the trip, the book and why basketball turned out to be the MVP of the trip.

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Conversation Notes

• Taking a family of 7 through 21 countries on 5 continents in 365 days
• The fifteen year preparation for a year-long global trip
• Learning Cold War history from a country that was behind the Iron Curtain
• Building relationship with a Palestinian refugee living in Jordan
• A dual narrative approach to visiting Israel-Palestine
• Basketball as a cross-cultural bridge builder
• Turning an epic family trip into a book by a first time author

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It has been four years since Phil invited Brandon to take over the podcast and the conversations since then (and all the way back to Phil's founding of the podcast in 2016) have been rich, uplifting and led to the equipping of people throughout the world to care for the vulnerable. In this mid-year episode, we're preparing to take a month off from releasing episodes, but there's an even bigger transition for our podcast community. This is a conversation for those in this community. Join this personal conversation with Phil and Brandon as we pursue God with open hands.

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Conversation Notes

• Conversations happening on How Soccer Explains Leadership
• Updates from Phil's leadership over Providence World
• The history and origins of this podcast
• Brandon's call towards flexibility in ministry
• The transition of podcast hosting for Think Global, Do Justice

There's no denying that western money in Global South countries has a profound impact, for better or worse. We might assume that spending money on volunteering and caring for orphans would be a net positive in the majority world. That however is not the case. As we dive back into the conversation around orphan care and volunteering, we're joined by filmmaker Barak Laub whose new documentary Volunteers Needed delves into this very dynamic in Nepal. He talks with Brandon Stiver about the film, his travels and the effort to advocate for government policies in the US that would mitigate harm in global orphan care.

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Conversation Notes

• The connection of volunteering to care for wild animals and canned hunting
• The importance of bringing and teaching skills when volunteering abroad
• The country conflict that led to the proliferation of orphanages in Nepal
• The relationship between corruption, poverty and caste in certain Asian countries
• The experience of kids that grow up in care in Nepal
• Misinformation told to volunteers that leads to exploitation
• Spending money in a way that reflects your values

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