On this episode we have John Mackersie joining us for a little end of year reflection.

John is a strength and conditioning coach with over 15 years of professional experience in collegiate athletics and military special operations. He began coaching in Division I athletics and has been working with special operations since 2013. He has spoken and lectured on numerous occasions at national and regional levels, including preparing aspiring coaches for certification exams. He is a strong believer in all things old school (he and Drew share an affinity for stone lifting) but also in integrating newer technologies. He has both his bachelors and masters in psychology, bringing a unique perspective to the strength and conditioning profession.

We each prepared for this conversation by thinking of three big things we’ve changed our minds on when it comes to human performance. A common theme was the difference between the “textbook” version of strength and conditioning and the reality of working with actual people who have complicated lives, specific preferences, and plenty of other priorities beyond fitness.

As you listen, think about what you’ve changed your mind on