This episode gave me goosebumps — and you’ll understand why soon.

Today, I’m speaking with the identical twin sisters Cipriana Quann and TK Wonder, hosts of the Chew on Something podcast and founders of Urban Bush Babes, a lifestyle platform celebrating the multi-faceted lives of women of color.

Cipriana is a former Vogue writer; TK Wonder is a rapper and singer who’s opened for artists like Nas and Afrika Bambaataa. Together, they’ve starred in campaigns for Fendi, Valentino, Tiffany & Co., Sephora, and more.

I first saw them years ago in New York City during my Condé Nast days — two striking women shaping culture and fashion. I never imagined that years later, they’d be sitting on The New Health Club podcast couch in Denver with Joe Moore from Psychedelics Today and me, sharing one of the most powerful healing stories I’ve ever heard.

Cipriana and TK open up about surviving sexual, physical, and childhood abuse — and how, for years, they used sugar and comfort food to numb the pain. Their discovery of Ibogaine, a plant medicine known for its deep psychological healing, completely transformed their relationship with their bodies and their health.

This is a story about sisterhood, resilience, and the power of psychedelics to help us finally face what we’ve been running from — and heal for good.

In this episode:

How trauma shapes our relationship with food

The healing potential of Ibogaine

From fashion icons to wellness voices

What real transformation looks like after trauma

✨ How we used food to numb our trauma — and how Ibogaine helped us heal from it.

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