Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the sharp rotation from growth into value, falling oil prices, stronger-than-expected economic data, and the implications of rising memory chip costs across the technology sector. Professor Siegel also shares his view that lower energy prices should help keep inflation contained, making additional interest rate hikes this year unlikely, while highlighting upcoming labor market, housing, and money supply data as key indicators to watch. (13:23) Jeremy continues with Brent Donnelly to discuss his new book, Trade Outside the Box, and how successful traders can gain an edge by thinking beyond traditional investment frameworks. Brent explains how psychology, poker, creativity, narratives, and behavioral finance influence his trading process, while also discussing the role of AI, market positioning, and sentiment in identifying opportunities. The conversation concludes with insights on market rotations, disciplined risk management, adapting to changing market environments, and the broader life lessons that can be drawn from trading, decision-making, and independent thinking.

Read Brent's book: https://a.co/d/09sXk2jA

Learn more about Brent: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07NC8MVZZ/about?ccs_id=7f690ca0-41d4-43c0-b13c-b3140b3a8411

WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the sharp rotation from growth into value, falling oil prices, stronger-than-expected economic data, and the implications of rising memory chip costs across the technology sector. Professor Siegel also shares his view that lower energy prices should help keep inflation contained, making additional interest rate hikes this year unlikely, while highlighting upcoming labor market, housing, and money supply data as key indicators to watch. (13:23) Jeremy continues with Brent Donnelly to discuss his new book, Trade Outside the Box, and how successful traders can gain an edge by thinking beyond traditional investment frameworks. Brent explains how psychology, poker, creativity, narratives, and behavioral finance influence his trading process, while also discussing the role of AI, market positioning, and sentiment in identifying opportunities. The conversation concludes with insights on market rotations, disciplined risk management, adapting to changing market environments, and the broader life lessons that can be drawn from trading, decision-making, and independent thinking. Read Brent's book: https://a.co/d/09sXk2jA Learn more about Brent: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07NC8MVZZ/about?ccs_id=7f690ca0-41d4-43c0-b13c-b3140b3a8411 WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

Trade Outside the Box, Featuring Brent Donnelly

Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.

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Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio. Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide. Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction. Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit. Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha. Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate. Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.

Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and&nbsp;Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of&nbsp;Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.

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