In this episode of Becoming Reborn, Trav and Pat sit down for an honest conversation about balancing the demands of training, family life, business, and being present through every season of life.

Pat shares a personal story from when his youngest was just six months old. Like many new parents, he was surviving on broken sleep, waking every couple of hours and wishing for just one uninterrupted night of rest.

Then he stopped and thought back to the day his wife showed him the ultrasound. He remembered the excitement, the gratitude, and how badly he wanted to become a dad. That moment gave him a completely different perspective.

He realised that while he was complaining about sleepless nights, there are people who would give anything to experience those same moments with a child of their own.

The boys explore how easy it is to lose perspective when life gets busy, and why gratitude often comes from remembering the things we once hoped and prayed for.

This episode is a reminder that every season brings its own challenges, but it also brings moments that one day we'll look back on and wish we had appreciated just a little more.