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  • CO-HOST | Make Money on YouTube Before the Monetization Rules Get Tougher

    YouTube is raising the bar for creators who want to monetize—and Travis and producer Eric break down what that means for podcasters, long-form creators, animators, and anyone building a channel from scratch. They examine why the coming shift could reward creators who focus on retention and quality, why it may also fuel AI-generated content, and how to approach the current window before the requirements change. The conversation also covers deceptive clip channels, copyright, reaction content, and a potential upside for monetized creators through YouTube Premium Lite.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • YouTube's reported new monetization thresholds: 8,000 public watch hours in 12 months or 20 million Shorts views in 90 days

    • Why creators with monetization goals should prioritize publishing and watch time before the deadline

    • The difference between views and watch hours—and why retention is the more useful metric

    • How higher entry barriers could affect niche creators, animators, and AI-generated content

    • Deceptive clip channels, copyright concerns, and the need for genuinely transformative commentary

    • Why YouTube Premium Lite could create an additional revenue opportunity for eligible creators

    • Top 3 Takeaways

      1. Monetization is a milestone, not a business model. Focus on building enough quality, audience trust, and watch time to create meaningful revenue after you qualify.

      2. Long-form retention matters. A smaller, highly engaged audience can generate more watch time than a high-view video with weak average viewing duration.

      3. Use the current runway strategically: repurpose strong back-catalog content, publish consistently, and create original work rather than chasing low-value clips or AI volume.

      4. Notable Quotes

        • “If you have a channel that you want to monetize, put your ass in gear for the next couple months and get it monetized before February.”

        • “You could get a video with 100,000 views that has an average watch time of a minute and a half, or you could get a video with 10,000 views with an average watch time of 23 minutes.”

        • “I want you to be successful, just not more successful than me.”

        • Connect with Travis:

          • Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell

          • Other: https://travischappell.com

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            25 min
          • INTERVIEW | Make Money by Fixing What’s Broken in Healthcare feat. Jarred Pierce

            Jarred Pierce is the founder and CEO of Unity Preferred Network and a healthcare executive with more than 20 years of experience building provider networks, negotiating contracts, and creating strategic relationships across the healthcare industry. He started working in PPO networks at just 17 years old and has since built multiple healthcare businesses. In this episode, Jarred shares how he built Unity without outside investment, why he believes transparency can disrupt a broken healthcare system, and the lessons he’s learned about scaling, partnerships, and embracing the struggle of entrepreneurship.

            On this episode we talk about:

            • How Jarred started building PPO networks at just 17 years old and turned an early job into a 20+ year career

            • Why scaling requires setting ambitious goals, executing on the steps in front of you, and constantly looking for the next challenge

            • The advantages of building a company without outside investment and maintaining control over your business

            • How Jarred built Unity Preferred Network to create more transparency and alignment between healthcare providers, payers, and patients

            • Why embracing the struggle, managing cash flow, and building the right partnerships are critical to long-term business success

            • Top 3 Takeaways

              1. Embrace the struggle. The difficult moments of entrepreneurship teach you how to solve problems, generate revenue, and develop the confidence to handle future challenges.

              2. Build for the long term. Instead of taking every dollar out of the business, reinvest in your team, infrastructure, and vision so you can create something bigger over time.

              3. Solve a real problem for the people you serve. Jarred’s approach to healthcare is centered on creating a better experience for both providers and members rather than simply following the existing industry model.

              4. Notable Quotes

                • “Embrace the struggle, enjoy it, cherish it, remember it because that's what's gonna motivate you to not feel that way again or learn from the mistakes you had.”

                • “You can have the greatest presentation in the world, but if you're not really hitting on the core of what the issue is, you're gonna lose the sale immediately.”

                • “I think that's what a good CEO is, is it can take a step back, let the vision ride out, chime in when needed instead of being a micromanager to every aspect of it.”

                • Connect with Jarred Pierce:

                  • LinkedIn: Jarred Pierce on LinkedIn

                  • Instagram: @unitypreferrednetwork

                  • Instagram (personal): https://www.instagram.com/jarredandrewp/

                  • Other: Unity Preferred Network

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                    28 min
                  • SOLO | Make Money by Mastering Influence

                    Travis Chappell delivers a solo masterclass on gaining influence—the essential skill for entrepreneurs, networkers, and anyone looking to close more deals or build authority. Drawing from Robert Cialdini's Influence, his podcast booking agency that hit $1M in 8 months, and years of relationship-building, Travis shares three proven paths to become undeniably influential without gimmicks or scams.

                    On this episode we talk about:

                    • Why "be interested, not interesting" is half the networking equation—becoming a person of interest first

                    • "Badass bullets": How unique accomplishments (ultras, stadium tours, epic feats) make you a must-interview guest

                    • Value = influence: Give practical advice, entertainment, or insights to earn trust and obedience

                    • Examples from Gary Vee, MrBeast, and The Rock—how consistent value creation turns into massive business wins

                    • The power of frequency over volume: Short-form consistency builds long-term trust faster than you think

                    • Top 3 Takeaways

                      1. Become a person of interest—stack unique life experiences (adventures, feats, stories) so others evangelize you naturally.

                      2. Deliver value relentlessly; it doesn't have to be profound—entertainment or quick wins create loyal followers who act on your word.

                      3. Stay consistent over time; frequency breeds trust, turning one-off interactions into lifelong influence.

                      4. Notable Quotes

                        • "Value equals influence. The more value that you give, the more influence that you have."

                        • "People who do really interesting, cool things... become the evangelists for them just by very nature."

                        • "Be interested, not interesting... [but] being interesting is actually still a really valuable piece of the equation."

                        • Connect with Travis Chappell:

                          • LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell⁠

                          • Twitter/X: ⁠https://twitter.com/travischappell⁠

                          • Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/travischappell⁠

                          • Other: travischappell.com

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                            15 min
                          • CO-HOST | Make Money by Spending Less on Stuff and More on Experiences

                            Eric, producer of the Travis Makes Money podcast, joins Travis for a candid conversation about the purchases that actually improve life. From massages after long international flights to buying a family-friendly Lexus, Eric shares why intentional spending—especially on meaningful experiences—has delivered more lasting value than constantly upgrading possessions.

                            On this episode we talk about:

                            • Why Eric associates massages with international travel and recovery after long flights

                            • The awkwardness of tipping and making payments after a supposedly relaxing massage

                            • The myth that one more purchase will solve all your problems

                            • Why a new Lexus SUV turned out to be a worthwhile, guilt-free purchase for Eric’s family

                            • Choosing family trips and shared memories over frequent tech, TV, and gift upgrades

                            • Top 3 Takeaways

                              1. Spend on purchases that solve a real, recurring problem—not just on things that create a short-lived rush.

                              2. Experiences, travel, and time with the people you love can create more lasting happiness than accumulating more possessions.

                              3. Delaying an upgrade is often smart, but when a purchase genuinely improves your everyday life, it can be worth making without guilt.

                              4. Notable Quotes

                                • “The vast majority of all other purchases that have ever brought me happiness have been directly related to, like, going somewhere new, trying something new.”

                                • “We could go buy a new TV, new sound system and stuff like that… but it’s like, that’s a week with my family somewhere.”

                                • “Money only solves your money problems, but it’s easier to solve the rest of your problems with some money in the bank.”

                                • Connect with Travis:

                                  • Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell

                                  • Other: https://travischappell.com

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                                    22 min
                                  • INTERVIEW | Make Money by Turning a Snowboarding Career into Passive Income with Dan Brisse

                                    Dan Brisse is the co-founder and managing partner of Granite Towers Equity Group, where he oversees operations, acquisitions, investor relations, and asset management. Before becoming a real estate investor, Dan spent more than 13 years as a professional snowboarder, winning multiple X Games gold medals and becoming one of the top urban snowboarders in the world. After seeing fellow athletes struggle financially when their careers ended, Dan began investing his earnings into real estate and building passive income. Today, Granite Towers manages thousands of multifamily units and hundreds of millions in investor equity.

                                    On this episode we talk about:

                                    • How Dan went from a professional snowboarding career to building passive income through real estate

                                    • The financial lessons he learned from watching professional athletes struggle after their careers ended

                                    • Why increasing passive income became more important to Dan than simply increasing earned income

                                    • How real estate cycles, interest rates, and variable-rate debt are creating opportunities in today's multifamily market

                                    • The importance of maintaining a modest lifestyle when your income increases

                                    • How Dan approaches investing, diversification, taxes, and building long-term wealth

                                    • Top 3 Takeaways

                                      1. Don't confuse a high income with wealth. When your income increases, maintain financial discipline and put the extra capital into assets that can continue producing income long after the paycheck stops.

                                      2. Understand the cycle you're investing in. Real estate markets move in cycles, and periods of fear can create opportunities for investors who understand the fundamentals and have the capital to act.

                                      3. Learn how to keep the money you make. Earning more is only part of the equation. Dan emphasizes the importance of taxes, investing, controlling your capital, and building assets that can create wealth for decades.

                                      4. Notable Quotes

                                        • “You're not rich yet. You just made good money this year.”

                                        • “How do you keep it for more than 15 seconds?”

                                        • “If you put your capital into an asset to work for you, now you have the capital and you're getting streams of income that I control.”

                                        • Connect with Dan Brisse:

                                          • Website: Granite Towers Equity Group

                                          • Podcast: Keeping It Real Estate

                                          • Book: Four Steps to Successful Passive Investing

                                          • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danbrisse/

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                                            25 min
                                          • SOLO | Make Money with the Credibility Code

                                            Travis delivers a solo masterclass on the "Credibility Code," sharing the top five proven ways he's used to build massive trust in his personal brand and business, even when he wasn't the "best" at what he did. Drawing from his own journey, he explains why the most successful people often win through perception and proof rather than just skill alone.

                                            On this episode we talk about:

                                            • The "celebrity effect" and why credibility often trumps raw talent in getting business.

                                            • Why PR and publications are still the lowest-hanging fruit for instant third-party validation.

                                            • Building a massive library of testimonials and case studies tailored to different customer avatars.

                                            • Creating high-volume content and guest appearances to overwhelm skeptics with evidence.

                                            • Associating with "undeniable" influencers (like Shaq) to borrow their trust and skyrocket your brand.

                                            • Top 3 Takeaways

                                              1. Stack social proof relentlessly. Don't just add one or two testimonials—build a library matching every possible customer scenario so prospects see themselves in your results.

                                              2. Volume creates conviction. Flood Google with your name through guest spots, podcasts, and backlinks until anyone researching you finds overwhelming evidence you're legit.

                                              3. Associate to accelerate. Share the stage with "Shaq-level" names in your niche; their endorsement transfers instant trust, often more powerfully than PR logos alone.

                                              4. Notable Quotes

                                                • "The people who got the most business were not necessarily always the best at what they did. They were just the ones who were well known for doing it."

                                                • "If anybody researched who I am... you're going to find so much volume... it's going to be overwhelming... that you can't avoid the idea that I'm credible."

                                                • "Nike spends tens of billions a year in endorsements. They're basically just buying trust with their ideal audience. That's all it is."

                                                • Connect with Travis:

                                                  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell/

                                                  • Other: travischappell.com

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                                                    17 min
                                                  • CO-HOST | Make Money by Protecting Your Kids From Social Media

                                                    Travis and producer Eric take a candid look at the growing impact of social media on kids and teens. From platform accountability and algorithm-driven insecurity to online radicalization and the pressure to build a life for the feed, they unpack why parents need firmer boundaries—and why offline life, critical thinking, and room to change your mind matter more than ever.

                                                    On this episode we talk about:

                                                    • Meta’s legal accountability for alleged harms to young people and the safety features discussed in the ruling

                                                    • How platforms can turn signals of insecurity into advertising opportunities

                                                    • Why endless exposure to extreme content can shift what feels normal or acceptable

                                                    • The risks of algorithmic rabbit holes, from body-image content to misogynistic and radicalizing material

                                                    • Creating healthy boundaries around kids, social media, and digital footprints

                                                    • Top 3 Takeaways

                                                      1. Treat children’s access to social media as a serious parenting and safety decision—not a default rite of passage.

                                                      2. Algorithms do not merely reflect attention; they can reinforce insecurity, normalize extreme ideas, and shape a young person’s sense of reality.

                                                      3. Protect intellectual flexibility: being able to argue a position does not make it correct, and public identity can intensify confirmation bias.

                                                      4. Notable Quotes

                                                        • “You’re just looking at the highlight reels of everybody else’s life.”

                                                        • “Just because you can win a debate does not mean that you are correct.”

                                                        • “You have to consciously choose to have your life and then have social—not be like, ‘What’s going to play well on social?’”

                                                        • Connect with Travis and Eric:

                                                          • LinkedIn: Follow Travis and the Travis Makes Money podcast on LinkedIn

                                                          • Instagram: Follow Travis Makes Money on Instagram

                                                          • Other: Listen to the Travis Makes Money podcast on your preferred podcast platform

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                                                            21 min
                                                          • INTERVIEW | Make Money by Turning Failure into Your Greatest Advantage with Perry Lunsford

                                                            Perry Lunsford is the founder and CEO of Healthy Insurance Dude, one of the nation's fastest-growing independent health insurance brokerages. A U.S. Air Force veteran and lifelong entrepreneur, Perry has built multiple businesses—from irrigation companies and fitness centers to marketing agencies and insurance—while learning firsthand that failure often lays the foundation for extraordinary success. In this episode, Perry shares how years of setbacks, smart marketing, and relentless resilience helped him build a thriving business by simply taking exceptional care of people.

                                                            On this episode we talk about:

                                                            • How years of entrepreneurial failures prepared Perry for massive success in the insurance industry

                                                            • Why marketing—not sales—became his biggest competitive advantage

                                                            • Building the Healthy Insurance Dude brand through social media before personal branding became mainstream

                                                            • The difference between entrepreneurs and employees, and why entrepreneurship isn't for everyone

                                                            • Lessons learned from rebuilding his business after leaving the traditional MLM insurance model

                                                            • Perry's approach to investing in businesses, classic cars, and assets he understands best

                                                            • Top 3 Takeaways

                                                              1. Your biggest failures often become your greatest competitive advantage. Every business Perry struggled through gave him skills that eventually made succeeding in insurance feel almost effortless.

                                                              2. Great marketing makes selling easy. By building trust and visibility before speaking with prospects, Perry created a business where customers were already ready to buy before the sales conversation even began.

                                                              3. Invest in what you know. Whether it's your own business or a niche market like classic cars, understanding your investments gives you a significant edge over chasing trends you don't fully understand.

                                                              4. Notable Quotes

                                                                • “God put me on the planet to fail at a lot of stuff to end up here.”

                                                                • “I'm not a very good salesperson. I'm a fantastic marketer.”

                                                                • “The thing about making money is you just gotta help enough people.”

                                                                • Connect with Perry Lunsford:

                                                                  • Website: https://www.thehealthyinsurancedude.com/

                                                                  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healthyinsurancedude

                                                                  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/healthyinsurancedude

                                                                  • A Word from Our Sponsors:

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                                                                    25 min
                                                                  • SOLO | Make Money with the Right Side Hustle (Without Burning the Boats)

                                                                    On this solo episode, Travis breaks down his personal framework for deciding which side hustles are actually worth your time, energy, and attention. Using real-world examples and mindset shifts, he shows you how to stop numbing out with Netflix and impulse buys and start using your “5-to-9” to escape a job you hate and build something you actually enjoy.

                                                                    On this episode we talk about:

                                                                    • Why “burn the boats” advice is dangerous for most people with families, mortgages, and real responsibilities

                                                                    • The mindset trap of tolerating a job you dislike and using money and free time to self-soothe instead of change your situation

                                                                    • How to reallocate your free time and extra cash toward skills, side businesses, and opportunities that create leverage

                                                                    • The four key qualifications of a good side hustle: fun, worth your time, scalable, and low cost to start

                                                                    • Examples of side hustles that cap your income (like rideshare) versus ones that can grow into full-time businesses

                                                                    • Top 3 Takeaways

                                                                      1. If you’re stuck in a job you don’t like, your free time and extra money must stop being used for escape and start being used for skills, leverage, and new opportunities.

                                                                      2. A great side hustle is enjoyable enough to stick with, pays you a meaningful hourly rate (or builds valuable skills/connections), and has the potential to scale beyond trading time for dollars.

                                                                      3. Start with low-cost experiments instead of high-risk plays; prove the model, learn the game, then scale into bigger bets once you know you actually like the work.

                                                                      4. Notable Quotes

                                                                        • “You can’t have everything you want without having sacrificed to get it. At some point, a sacrifice will be required.”

                                                                        • “Money’s like a relationship, man. You’ve got to treat it well, treat it with respect…you want money to love spending time with you.”

                                                                        • “Just because you can make some money doing something doesn’t mean it’s worth the time it takes to make that money.”

                                                                        • Connect with Travis Chappell:

                                                                          • LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell⁠

                                                                          • Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/travischappell⁠

                                                                          • Other: ⁠https://travischappell.com⁠


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                                                                            23 min
                                                                          • CO-HOST | Make Money With a Podcast: What the Highest-Paid Shows Teach Us

                                                                            Travis is joined in the studio by his producer, Eric, for a candid breakdown of the highest-paid podcasters of 2026. Together, they look beyond celebrity and download counts to unpack why niche audiences, high-value listeners, strong sponsorships, and strategic ownership can make a podcast extraordinarily valuable—even when the show is relatively small.

                                                                            On this episode we talk about:

                                                                            • The highest-paid podcasts and creators of 2026, from Joe Rogan and Crime Junkie to The Diary of a CEO and SmartLess

                                                                            • Why a small, highly influential audience can be more valuable than a massive general audience

                                                                            • TBPN’s reported acquisition by OpenAI and what it suggests about podcast ownership, audience capture, and media influence

                                                                            • The difference between celebrity-driven shows and podcasts built around niche expertise

                                                                            • Why podcasting is rarely the fastest route to revenue—and how it can still open doors to bigger opportunities

                                                                            • Top 3 Takeaways

                                                                              1. Build for audience quality, not just download volume. A focused show that reaches decision-makers can command premium sponsorships and create outsized strategic value.

                                                                              2. Treat podcast revenue as one part of a larger business. Sponsorships, live events, distribution deals, brand partnerships, and the opportunities created by the show can matter as much as ads.

                                                                              3. Start a podcast because it supports a long-term mission or business, not because it seems like quick money. Most podcasts do not generate meaningful profit, but a consistent show can build relationships, authority, and access over time.

                                                                              4. Notable Quotes

                                                                                • "Because it was such a niche space with such a high-value audience, they were closing these seven-figure sponsorship deals."

                                                                                • "A podcast in and of itself is not the easiest path... if you want to make more money."

                                                                                • "I’m much more curious about what it can do for you in terms of opening doors that allows you to make more money."

                                                                                • Connect with Travis:

                                                                                  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell

                                                                                  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell

                                                                                  • Other: https://travischappell.com

                                                                                  • A Word from Our Sponsors:

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                                                                                    26 min

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