Bryan Romero Leiva is a man that not many people outside of Peru have heard of before. Bryan was angry and humiliated after his ex-girlfriend Thalia participated in a game show, revealing personal and embarrassing secrets for a cash prize. Thalia never gave him his cut of the money, and the social humiliation of the secrets she exposed was too much for him. He felt he had to retaliate against her.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Bryan Leiva. Bryan murdered Thalia and lied to the police, her family, and news reporters. Bryan has never been truthful about what really transpired that night, and there is still some debate in his case on if he killed Thalia in a fit of rage, or if he carefully planned her murder for weeks. 

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Jimmy Robertson had it all. He was born into a loving family who had considerable wealth. He went to the best schools and had all of the opportunities to succeed. But, He flamed out of college and began using drugs and alcohol heavily. He also began committing petty crimes. He was mad at his family because they stopped supporting him financially. He made the decision that his best option was to kill his parents in order to get his hands on his inheritance sooner rather than later.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Jimmy Robertson, a man who murdered both his mother and father in a brutal fashion in a drug-fueled rage. How did a kid who had every opportunity to succeed squander it away? And, even when that happened, how could a young man make the decision to murder the two people who had brought him into the world and tried to give him everything they could?

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If you suddenly came into a large sum of money, would you tell anyone? If you did tell someone, who would you trust with that secret? Sarah Stern believed she could trust her best friend Liam McAtasney, but she was wrong. Liam thought that money was more valuable than the life of his friend and murdered Sarah when she least expected it.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murderous ways of Liam McAtasney. An intense investigation involving lies, surprise evidence, and a sting operation led to Liam’s arrest after he confessed everything in a secret video recording. It turned out that Liam had an accomplice, a friend to both him and Sarah named Preston Taylor. Liam valued Sarah's life so little that he was willing to kill her just to get his hands on her money.

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In August 2000, Pam Shelley, along with her two children, moved to Cuero, Texas with a man she had met named Ronnie Hendrick. Hendrick was both physically and verbally abusive to not only Pam but to her young daughter Kayla as well. On January 6th, 2001, Pam Shelley was shot in the head inside the home she shared with Ronnie. Ronnie and his family told the police that Pam had taken her own life. And he almost got away with murder.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Ronnie Hendrick and the murder of Pam Shelley. Pam was getting ready to move back to her home state of Arkansas when she died. At first, police ruled it a suicide because of the story told by Ronnie and his family. It took 15 years, a detective that absolutely would not give up, and Pam's daughter Kayla, to finally expose the truth and bring Ronnie Hendrick to justice.

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Benjamin Atkins was a serial killer and rapist who operated in the Detroit area in 1991 and 1992. He is considered by the FBI to be America's fastest serial killer because he murdered 11 women in such a short span of time. Atkins preyed on women along Detroit's Woodward Avenue and his M.O. remained consistent. He targeted sex workers because his mother was a sex worker who took him with her and he was forced to see things that no child should have to witness.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the horrific details of serial killer Benjamin Atkins. He took the lives of 11 women during an 8-9 month time span, but, it was his only victim that managed to escape who ultimately brought him down. Atkins experienced a terrible childhood, and his defense argued that it was this childhood that ultimately made him the predator he became.

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On June 22nd, 1991, 40-year-old Charles Holden left work and stopped by a Hardee's restaurant. A stranger came up to his window asking for a ride and Charles agreed to give him one. But, just a few miles down the road Charles changed his mind and a fight ensued. He was able to get away in his truck. But, when he got home he found this man lurking around his house. And, hours later with police on the scene, he found his mother, Dorothy Donovan, murdered in her house next door.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss murderer Gibert Cannon and a case that is so bizarre, it's hard to believe it happened how it did. The police didn't believe the story Charles told them about the mysterious stranger and they firmly believed that he killed his own mother. It took 14 years and a series of fortunate events to find the real killer and clear Charles in the murder.

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In 1995, 15-year-old Elyse Pahler left her home in Arroyo Grande, California to hang out with some kids her age and never returned. What Elyse didn't know is that three boys, Joseph Fiorella, Jacob Delashmutt, and Royce Casey had been planning to kill her for some time. The murder was shocking, but, the reasons behind the murder caused a media frenzy.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murder of Elyse Pahler. Joseph, Jacob, and Royce were into death metal and especially the band Slayer. They revealed to police that they sacrificed Elyse Pahler because they believed that the devil would make them better musicians.

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Richard Lyon was a man who had it all. He had money, a loving wife, and two little girls. But, when he met another woman, he began scheming on how to get out of his marriage. He wanted this new woman, but, he did not want to give up his social status, his money, or his children. He developed a plan to poison his wife, Nancy, and he almost got away with it.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Richard Lyon. When he married Nancy, Richard gained the status and money that came from her family. He wasn't about to give that up and to do that he had to remove Nancy from the picture. He began poisoning Nancy over a period of time and it culminated with her death in 1991. Nancy's family was suspicious from the start and eventually, police charged Richard with Nancy's murder. But, during his trial, it looked as though his defense was set to gain an acquittal. It took a bombshell from the prosecution to seal his fate.

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Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, known as the Moors Murderers, were British child murderers and rapists. Their crimes are some of the most violent and disturbing acts against children ever committed in Britain. They abducted, tortured, beat, sexually abused, and murdered five children. The couple quickly became the most hated people in the country. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the couple Hindley and Brady. There is a lot of debate about the extent of Myra's involvement in the murders and sexual assaults. There is also some debate as to whether her involvement was the result of her fear of Ian Brady. But, there is no doubt, that she was complicit in crimes against children and remained in a relationship with a killer.

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Betty Neumar was married five times and all of her husbands died. Some of the deaths were suspicious but police had a very hard time putting together the evidence to charge Betty with any of them. That changed in 2008 when Betty was charged with hiring a hitman to murder her fourth husband Harold Gentry in 1986. It took authorities 22 years to put it together, and after she was charged, police reopened the deaths of some of her other husbands.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Betty Neumar who the papers dubbed "The Black Widow Granny." Was Betty a monster who killed husband after husband to get her hands on their life insurance money? Or, was she a person who had the worst luck of anyone who ever lived? By the time she was arrested, Betty was in very poor health, and it was a race against time to get her into court.

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