After 150 episodes, Nick Bilton is handing over the reigns of Inside the Hive to Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox and Joe Hagan. In today’s episode, all three join together for a round-table discussion on Trump’s attempt to blame everyone—from Barack Obama to the World Health Organization—for his floundering response to COVID-19; how Joe Biden and the Democrats should respond; and if Americans have too much freedom (and an aversion to wearing masks) to truly stop the spread until there’s a cure. Stick around for a little heart-to-heart at the end, and—of course—a brief discussion about making sourdough bread in the middle of the apocalypse.