A Note from James:

Well, you can't get more information about tariffs and the economy than what I just got and you're about to listen to. Wilbur Ross, who was Secretary of Commerce under the first administration of Trump, just came on the podcast. I got to ask any question I wanted—about tariffs, the economy, everything.

Don't forget, in Trump’s first administration, we saw steel and aluminum tariffs, and there were all the same concerns—about the economy, inflation, political blowback. Wilbur Ross was right at the center of it. And now, he’s giving me the full picture on what’s happening today and where it’s all heading.

This is a guy who built entire industries, served in the Cabinet, and is worth billions. He’s also the author of Risks and Returns: Creating Success in Business and Life, which I highly recommend. He’s an economic and business inspiration. I learned a lot from this conversation—I’m sure you will too.

Please share this episode with anyone who wants to better understand what’s really going on with tariffs and the economy. Enjoy!

Episode Description:

James sits down with Wilbur Ross, former Secretary of Commerce and seasoned investor, for a candid and highly detailed discussion on tariffs, China, inflation, pharmaceutical policy, and the state of the U.S. economy. Ross offers a firsthand look at the economic strategies being proposed for a possible second Trump administration—explaining why blanket tariffs might make sense, what’s really going on with China and rare earths, and how executive power is being used to bypass bureaucratic gridlock.

Listeners will get a rare window into how economic policy is being formed, the political forces shaping it, and what it all means for growth, inflation, and American manufacturing.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why blanket tariffs are being reconsidered—and how they differ from past policies
• The strategic role of tariffs in foreign policy, especially with China
• How U.S. dependence on China for pharmaceuticals and rare earths is being challenged
• What role executive orders and emergency powers play in trade and healthcare reform
• The real economic trade-offs between inflation, recession, and reshoring production

Timestamped Chapters:

• [00:03] Complexity of Tariffs and China's Role
• [03:18] Trump's Tariff Strategy and Economic Impact
• [07:21] China's Influence on Global Supply Chains
• [16:13] Pharmaceutical Dependencies and Economic Policies
• [26:47] Impact of Tariffs on Inflation and Recession
• [45:18] Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Additional Resources:

• Wilbur Ross’s Book: Risks and Returns: Creating Success in Business and Life
• International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA): Legal summary on IEEPA
• Naked Wines (Podcast Sponsor): https://www.nakedwines.com/james

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