Ep. 14: Chicago Cubs Manager David Ross spent most of his 15-year career playing in the major leagues as a backup catcher. But, when he learned how to become a great teammate, his career doubled in length and he had the opportunity to win two world series championships.

We wrote a New York Times Best-Selling book together that teaches us how to create environments that recognize and celebrate those people who can become invaluable without ever being most valuable.

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Special thanks to Francisco Nunez for making this episode possible.