The Drone Ultimatum

Ukraine’s Spider Web Drone Attack & The Future of War | John Dulin (Podcast #32)


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Modern Intelligence Founder and CEO John Dulin joins us in-studio for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of autonomous warfare.

We break down the latest Ukrainian drone strike and what it signals about the next era of defense tech—where software, not hardware, defines lethality.

From AI-powered targeting to modular DoD acquisitions, this episode dives deep into the strategic, technical, and economic transformation unfolding across the defense industrial base.

We also discuss startup dynamics, factory-as-a-product models, and the rise of AI-driven competition in unmanned systems.


If you’re tracking the evolution of drones, autonomy, or defense VC, this one’s for you.


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