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You've heard the phrase "ultra-processed foods" everywhere. The 2025 Lancet Series called them a global health threat. The wellness world treats UPF as the new villain. But most people still can't tell you what counts as ultra-processed and what doesn't — because the definition is genuinely fuzzy, and the term is doing a lot of work in one breath.
In this fireside chat, Ashok and Meera Vasudevan hand listeners the literacy tool the conversation is missing: the NOVA classification system. Four simple groups, from whole foods to industrial formulations, that turn a confusing buzzword into a practical pantry test. Ten seconds with any food label, and you'll know roughly where it sits.
The episode also draws a line most wellness conversations don't: processing is not a slur. Fermenting, soaking, sprouting, milling — these are processing too. Idli batter is processed. So is sourdough, miso, and yoghurt. The villain isn't human food preparation. The villain is industrial ultra-processing — formulations engineered for hyper-palatability, packed with additives, designed for a long shelf life and a short attention span.
Honest about the scientific debate (the NOVA framework has genuine critics), generous about the gems (most traditional cuisines are NOVA Group 1–3 by design), and ruthlessly practical about the action: read the back of the box.
Five minutes. Evidence-based. A literacy tool you can use this week.
🎧 New episodes every Tuesday at 5am. 🌱 Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy is a CSAW production.
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Hosted by Meera & Ashok Vasudevan
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You've heard the phrase "ultra-processed foods" everywhere. The 2025 Lancet Series called them a global health threat. The wellness world treats UPF as the new villain. But most people still can't tell you what counts as ultra-processed and what doesn't — because the definition is genuinely fuzzy, and the term is doing a lot of work in one breath.
In this fireside chat, Ashok and Meera Vasudevan hand listeners the literacy tool the conversation is missing: the NOVA classification system. Four simple groups, from whole foods to industrial formulations, that turn a confusing buzzword into a practical pantry test. Ten seconds with any food label, and you'll know roughly where it sits.
The episode also draws a line most wellness conversations don't: processing is not a slur. Fermenting, soaking, sprouting, milling — these are processing too. Idli batter is processed. So is sourdough, miso, and yoghurt. The villain isn't human food preparation. The villain is industrial ultra-processing — formulations engineered for hyper-palatability, packed with additives, designed for a long shelf life and a short attention span.
Honest about the scientific debate (the NOVA framework has genuine critics), generous about the gems (most traditional cuisines are NOVA Group 1–3 by design), and ruthlessly practical about the action: read the back of the box.
Five minutes. Evidence-based. A literacy tool you can use this week.
🎧 New episodes every Tuesday at 5am. 🌱 Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy is a CSAW production.
Thanks for tuning in to "Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy"!
Hosted by Meera & Ashok Vasudevan
Stay Connected
#PayTheFarmerNotThePharmacy
#PlantBasedWellness
#NaturalFood
#AffordableWellness
#GutHealth
#ImmunityBoost
#NutritionTips
#CSAW (Centre for the Spread of Affordable Wellness)
#Meeravasudevan
#Ashokvasudevan
https://umaglobalfoods.com/
https://csaw.co
https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/pay-the-farmer-not-the-pharmacy/id1512934794
https://open.spotify.com/show/34nzNQQ62O8tygMaut2h8V

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