Under the Scales

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  • Cluster Flies from JamBase

    We have a special episode for you today, looking in depth at JamBase's Cluster Flies, the covers compilation reimagining Phish’s album Farmhouse. The limited-edition 3LP release was mastered by engineer Joe Lambert and features custom artwork and a poster created by longtime Phish collaborator Jim Pollock. You can pre-order the LP and Pollock poster here through Monday, May 3, or pre-order the digital version, which will be released on Friday, April 30.


    This episode includes an interview with JamBase CEO Dave Onigman, conducted by Dave and Brian from the Undermine team. We also have a song recommendation from Cluster Flies from each member of the Undermine team. We hope you enjoy this amazing compilation.


    These Phish covers were recorded by Umphrey’s McGee’s Brendan Bayliss, Club d’Elf, Daniel Donato, Chris Forsyth, Neal Francis, Jennifer Hartswick, Amy Helm, Lindsay Lou, Reed Mathis, White Denim’s James Petralli, Strand Of Oaks, Sylvan Esso, William Tyler, Sadler Vaden, Vetiver, Ryley Walker, and a supergroup led by Tim Palmieri (which includes our very own Amar Sastry).


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    1 hr 2 min
  • TEASER: Alive Again

    Alive Again is a limited series podcast exploring the solo career of Trey Anastasio.


    Based on extensive interviews with Trey and his bandmates and collaborators, Alive Again will dive into evolution of Trey’s songwriting and creative development, as well as the enduring career of the Trey Anastasio Band.


    The show will also cover Trey’s memories composing with Ernie Stires, his orchestral work, and his Broadway experience. The band’s experience with The Beacon Jams will be explored as well.


    Coming this Summer. Visit https://www.osirispod.com/podcasts/alive-again/ for more info and to sign up for our email newsletter.


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    4 min
  • Building The Community

    On the season finale of Undermine, we hear from fans who saw Phish in the 1980s, and hear their perspectives on the band’s development as they grew from a college bar band into a regional phenomenon. In addition, we hear how tape trading first entered the Phish community, and how it fueled the band's growth. Finally, we speak to Paul Languedoc, Phish’s longtime sound engineer and Trey’s guitar maker. We hear about his life and career, how he came to work for Phish, and the band's progression toward the 1990s.


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company. 


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Writing and production assistance by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance by Christina Collins, Nick Cejas and Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you this summer for Season Two.


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    1 hr 6 min
  • The Moment of Inspiration

    This week, we take a step back to examine Phish’s November 23, 1985 show at Goddard College, with a specific focus on the 27-min Whipping Post. During this show, Mike Gordon had an epiphany & decided he wanted to pursue music for the rest of his life. The jam in question shares a lot in common with early jamming from The Grateful Dead. We explore Phish’s relationship to The Dead, and focus comparing the two band’s during their formative years as well as looking at where The Dead was when Phish was originating. 


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company. 


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Writing and production assistance by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance by Christina Collins, Nick Cejas and Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.


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    52 min
  • Paradise Found

    This week, we look at Phish’s legendary show from the Paradise Rock Club, in Boston, on January 26, 1989. In yet another example of Phish refusing to play by the rules set by mainstream music, the band rented out the room and sold tickets against it. We hear from one of the guys who was involved in helping to sell out the show, and we talk about the band’s forays into Boston and New York in 1989. 


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company.


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Writing and production assistance by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance by Nick Cejas, Christina Collins and Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.


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    52 min
  • Junta

    In this episode of Undermine, Phish lyricist Tom Marshall guides us through the making and release of Junta, Phish’s first official debut album. Interviews with Junta audio engineer, Gordon Hookailo, Junta cover-artist Jim Pollock, Phish’s first manager Ben Hunter and others who remember this pivotal time in Phish history. 


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company. 


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Writing and production assistance by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance by Christina Collins, Nick Cejas and Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.


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    35 min
  • Westward Expansion and Improvisation

    This week, we go Westward, to explore Phish’s trip to Colorado in 1988 in more detail, and to dive into the Mike’s Song from August 3, 1988. Dave and Brian also talk about King Crimson and Genesis, and the way those bands influenced Phish.


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company. 


    If you enjoy Undermine, please give us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Writing and production assistance by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance by Christina Collins and Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. 


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    45 min
  • The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday

    How did a college project about the mythical land of Gamehendge become one of the most intriguing pieces of Phish lore? And how did The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday fit into the evolution of Phish in the important years of 1987 and 1988?


    In this episode of Undermine, RJ, Matt, Jonathan and Brad discuss Phish in 1987 and 1988, including how the band’s sound changed as they solidified into the four-piece they are today, how new songs changed their playing and approach to the live shows, the importance of The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, and how an excursion to Colorado in 1988 affected the band’s development. 


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company.


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Writing and production assistance by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance by Christina Collins and Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.



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    1 hr 5 min
  • The Early Compositions

    Core to the music of Phish are complex, evolving, emotionally moving compositions. Many of these early songs—Divided Sky, You Enjoy Myself, Foam, and others—remain highlights of the live experience. These songs created early in Phish’s career have stood the test of time, but what makes them so special? 


    In this episode, we’ll hear about three of these songs from Don Hart, the composer and arranger who has worked with Trey Anastasio for more than 15 years; and Drew Hitz, a classically trained musician and Phish fan. Don and Drew will walk us through these songs and talk about why they are such enduring pieces of Phish’s catalog. 


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company.


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Production assistance and writing by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance from Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Show logo from Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.


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    57 min
  • The 80s Rock Scene

    Phish’s song David Bowie combines quirky lyrics with an intricate musical arrangement that’s fit for a symphony. Starting with a discussion of the spirit and substance of this song, and a focus on the 8/29/87 version, Brian Brinkman and David Goldstein then use 1980s Phish to examine other notable bands from the decade like Minutemen, Yo La Tengo, Hüsker Dü, and R.E.M. 


    Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company.


    Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman and Matt Dwyer. Produced and Edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Co-hosted by David Goldstein, Jonathan Hart and Brad TenBrook. Production assistance and writing by Noah Eckstein. Production Assistance from Dawn Jenkins. Original music by Amar Sastry. Show logo from Mark Dowd. Thank you to all of our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.


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    57 min

About Under the Scales

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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted…

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