Understand

Understand

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  • Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: 5. Lias Saoudi's in his 40s

    What’s it like to be a man in your 40s? In Episode 5 of Michael Rosen’s series about masculinity and manhood, singer and author Lias Saoudi reflects on his transition from chaos to fatherhood.

    As the lead singer of the notoriously hedonistic band Fat White Family, Lias made a career out of chaos. But after a revelation during the covid lockdown, he makes a handbrake turn, cleaning up his life and having a baby with his best friend.
    But as the realities of life as a new father bite, the old instincts bubble up. How will Lias respond to his new responsibilities?

    Presenter: Michael Rosen

    Producer: Rich Power
    Executive Producer: Dave Anderson
    Sound Mixer: Dan King
    Editor: Kirsten Lass
    Production Manager: Emily Duffy
    Commissioning Editor: Dan Clarke

    A Loftus Media Production for BBC Radio 4

    15 min
  • Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: 4. Matthew Todd's in his 50s

    What’s it like to be a man in your 50s? In Episode 4 of Michael Rosen’s series about manhood and masculinity, journalist, activist and writer Matthew Todd talks about his experience.

    Matthew grew up feeling completely alienated from traditional masculinity. As a young gay man growing up during the HIV crisis of the 1980s, he felt the homophobia of mainstream culture deeply and developed a fear of straight men. But after decades of mental health problems and alcohol addiction, he finally was able to address his trauma. And now has found a new sense of himself as a man.

    Presenter: Michael Rosen

    Producer: Rich Power
    Executive Producer: Dave Anderson
    Sound Mixer: Dan King
    Editor: Kirsten Lass
    Production Manager: Emily Duffy
    Commissioning Editor: Dan Clarke

    A Loftus Media Production for BBC Radio 4

    15 min
  • Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: 3. David Baddiel's in his 60s

    What’s it like being a man in your 60s? In Episode 3 of Michael Rosen’s series about manhood and masculinity, comedian and writer David Baddiel shares his experience.

    Like all of us, David has always ‘known’ he was going to die, but it’s only now that he truly believes it. As he considers what sort of man he wants to be in his old age and what mark he’ll leave on the world, he realises it’s family that comes above everything else. But what does being a ‘father’ really mean?

    Presenter: Michael Rosen

    Producer: Rich Power
    Executive Producer: Dave Anderson
    Sound Mixer: Dan King
    Editor: Kirsten Lass
    Production Manager: Emily Duffy
    Commissioning Editor: Dan Clarke

    A Loftus Media Production for BBC Radio 4

    15 min
  • Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: 2. Colm Tóibín's in his 70s

    What is it like being a man in your 70s? In Episode 2 of Michael Rosen’s series about manhood and masculinity, celebrated author and poet Colm Tóibín shares how he feels less and less sexual energy as he ages, especially after surviving testicular cancer. But he’s far from depressed about it. In fact, he’s busy putting that energy to other uses.

    In this episode, Colm speaks to the visceral realities of aging, but also the new opportunities for physical and creative self-discovery.

    Presenter: Michael Rosen

    Producer: Rich Power
    Executive Producer: Dave Anderson
    Sound Mixer: Dan King
    Editor: Kirsten Lass
    Production Manager: Emily Duffy
    Commissioning Editor: Dan Clarke

    A Loftus Media Production for BBC Radio 4

    16 min
  • Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: 1. Michael Palin's in his 80s

    Michael Palin doesn’t feel like a ‘man’ anymore in his 80s. But what does that mean and does it bring a new freedom?

    In conversation with Michael Rosen – who has recently turned 80 himself – Palin reflects on the fading of those competitive instincts that motivated him as a young star of Monty Python. And how he has learned to embrace an entirely ‘unmale’ worldview in his later years.
    The two Michaels discuss how, as we age, the things that feel so important to many young men are put into stark perspective by grief. Just as he entered his 80s, Palin lost Helen, his wife of 60 years. Together they consider how to hold onto the sense of who we are in the face of such world-shaking blows.

    Presenter: Michael Rosen

    Producer: Rich Power
    Executive Producer: Dave Anderson
    Sound Mixer: Dan King
    Editor: Kirsten Lass
    Production Manager: Emily Duffy
    Commissioning Editor: Dan Clarke

    A Loftus Media Production for BBC Radio 4

    15 min
  • Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: Trailer

    What does being a ‘man’ really mean? From Michael Palin in his 80s to comedian Vittorio Angelone, just turned 30, seven men share their deeply personal experiences of manhood.

    After almost dying of covid-19, our host and guide Michael Rosen has just reached the ripe old age of 80. It’s got him thinking about what kind of man he’s been so far across his long life, and what that label even means to him anyway.

    Because today we’re surrounded by many conflicting ideals of manhood. Men should be strong and silent, but also in touch with their emotions. They should be aggressive and competitive, while shielding those weaker than them from harm. They should be radiating sex appeal, while setting an example as a family man. The older Michael gets, the more confusing he finds it.

    So in this series he’s putting aside all the notions of what a man ‘should’ be, to look at the real thing. The awkward thing. The funny thing. The tender thing we don’t quite know how to talk about.

    Michael speaks to seven men, each in a different decade of life, from wise elders Michael Palin and author Colm Tóibín, to sprightly middle-aged youngsters comedian David Baddiel and journalist Matthew Todd, right down to veritable toddlers - singer Lias Saoudi, former footballer Marvin Sordell, and comedian Vittorio Angelone.

    Presenter: Michael Rosen

    Producer: Rich Power
    Executive Producer: Dave Anderson
    Sound Mixer: Dan King
    Editor: Kirsten Lass
    Production Manager: Emily Duffy
    Commissioning Editor for BBC Radio 4: Dan Clarke
    A Loftus Media production for BBC Radio 4

    4 min
  • The Value Crisis: 3. Prompting a Crisis?

    In this episode, Ros Atkins asks whether AI is solving our ‘value crisis’, or making it worse.

    He takes the optimistic case seriously - that AI could deepen our relationship with the world around us, unlock new forms of creativity, strengthen human intimacy, and help us solve big problems.

    Then he tests each claim. If AI brings us closer to each other, what happens when that closeness is manufactured rather than real? If it can make us more creative, what happens when it's built on other people's work, taken without payment or consent? If it can solve our biggest problems, who benefits when the technology itself is owned by a handful of companies? And if it does our thinking for us, what becomes of the expertise we spent years building?

    Featuring economist Daniel Susskind, futurist Amy Webb, businesswoman Alex Mahon, New Yorker writer Kyle Chayka, writer John Lanchester, research adviser Roberta Pierfederici, musician Holly Herndon, Baroness Beeban Kidron, digital anthropologist Caia Hegel and sociologist Sherry Turkle.

    A Tempo & Talker production for BBC Radio 4

    42 min
  • The Value Crisis: 2. We've Been Here Before

    Technology is transforming what we value at breakneck speed. But is this really new?

    In this episode, Ros Atkins looks to four moments when earlier technologies forced a reckoning with value: the printing press, which flooded the world with words and upended who got to claim knowledge and authority; the Luddite rebellion, a skilled workforce fighting not technology itself but their own devaluation by it; the scandalous arrival of photography in Victorian England, when images could suddenly be captured, copied and faked; and the dot-com boom and bust of the 1990s, when a generation learned how quickly value can be invented, and lost.

    Featuring historian Ada Palmer, technology reporter Brian Merchant, cultural historian Tiffany Jenkins and New Yorker journalist John Cassidy.

    A Tempo & Talker production for BBC Radio 4

    43 min
  • The Value Crisis: 1. Crisis, What Crisis?

    Ros Atkins thinks technology is dramatically shifting what we value in the worlds of friendship, culture, finance and work.

    In this episode, he sets out to test whether that shift amounts to a crisis - or something else.

    He examines how technology has made our relationships more frictionless, and perhaps thinner as a result; whether an algorithm can tell the difference between what's good and what merely holds our attention; how in the world of finance, price has come loose from worth altogether; and how in the world of work, some of us are wondering how long our value will hold.

    Featuring contributions from philosopher C. Thi Nguyen, sociologist Sherry Turkle, journalist and broadcaster Zing Tsjeng, the New Yorker's Kyle Chayka, writer John Lanchester, Financial Times columnist Jemima Kelly, translator Ruth Martin, software engineer Andrew Hamilton and economist Daniel Susskind.

    A Tempo & Talker production for BBC Radio 4

    43 min
  • The Value Crisis: Trailer

    Technology is changing our lives at breakneck speed. But what is it doing to what we value?

    From friendship and culture to finance and work, Ros Atkins explores how technology is reshaping our ideas of worth. Has making our relationships more frictionless also made them thinner? Can an algorithm tell the difference between what's good and what simply holds our attention? What happens when price comes unstuck from value, or when the technology that makes us more productive also makes our own skills redundant?

    Ros looks to previous technological revolutions for clues, from the arrival of the printing press and the Luddite rebellion to the invention of photography and the dot-com crash. And as AI promises to transform everything from creativity and intimacy to science and work, he asks whether this really amounts to a crisis, and whether AI will resolve it, or make it worse.

    Producer: Nadia Mehdi

    A Tempo+Talker production for BBC Radio 4

    4 min

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