Unseriously

If that jokes makes zero sense...no worries, because we will tap back to it at least 4 times during the course of this fun episode with Sarah Walton and Kristen Wetherell, co-authors of the new book, Jesus Will Meet You There. Kristen and Sarah will entertain Holly with their unconquerable Chicago accent, tell her all about their worst non-metaphorical messes, and teach us all how to updone the downtown. They'll compare notes on being concert grannies, getting eyebrow tats, and how all the writing pals seem to be married to husbands who bear striking resemblances to NFL quarterbacks. (The QB Holly is looking for during this episode is AARON RODGERS--sorry to shout it at you but at least she didn't do it during the show.) These 3 will evoke Bette Midler and at some point be sure to ask you if you've washed your hands. As the silliness winds down, they'll dive into the heart behind Kristen and Sarah's newest book, Jesus Will Meet You There.

You can find the preorder bonus materials here, find Kristen online here and on Instagram here, and find Sarah on her Substack, as well as on Instagram here.

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Pour yourself the perfect cuppa and settle in for a laugh with two of our favorite Brits, Felicity Carswell and Sarah Dargue of the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast. Felicity, Sarah, and Holly will dig deep on all things skew-whiff as they define the limits of TV and weigh the merits of a larger freezer. But you better be right on time at 4:00 or you'll miss the secret DJ. Emma M. Lion will make an appearance, as well as Kate Albus. Both will be praised for their writing...one will catch some shade for their teatime verisimilitude.

Be sure to catch the @hollymacklebooks Instagram for the video of Holly showing Felicity and Sarah the mug she surprised them with for just this occasion, and while you're there be sure to follow along with the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea Instagram. And don't forget to look for those 10 of Those teabags, coming soon...eh, Jonathan? You can find Natalie Brand's new book, From Crimson to White here and the beloved Kate Albus book here.

It's a hilarious episode punctuated by truth--if you've never heard an episode of the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast we hope that will change today!

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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*Heads up, parents, this episode is NOT for the kiddos!

Today's Get Serious is with licensed professional counselor, counseling supervisor, and certified sex therapy associate Kara Jones all about healthy sexual intimacy within the covenant of marriage. It's an episode to forward along to your soon-to-be-married friends or your moms group--Kara is a wealth of knowledge mixed with deep sincerity and compassion on a topic that has long-plagued believers in the modern church. After some silliness and giggles on her Amazon search history and her husband's...shall we say...EAGERNESS to collect the Amazon deliveries, Kara and Holly will delve into how sex reflects how God made us to be drawn to his covenental, relational love, and all about Yada, or the Hebrew word for deep, experiential, relational knowledge of another. Plus they'll address the most common ditch Kara sees loving couples fall into before they arrive in her office.

Kara kindly shares her nerd-out knowledge with us and offers multiple resources she strongly recommends, such as:

The Great Sex Rescue, Sheila Wray Gregoire

Rethinking Sexuality, Juli Slattery

Come As You Are, Emily Nagoski

or any titles by Clifford & Joyce Penner such as Restoring the Pleasure,

Enjoy! The Gift of Sexual Pleasure for Women,

or Getting Your Sex Life Off to a Great Start: A Guide for Engaged or Newlywed Couples

(Holly would like it noted that her Amazon search history has also now been impacted.)

If you've never listened to the Unseriously episode with Birds & Bees' Mary Flo Ridley and Megan Michaelson all about training up kiddos drip by drip on this same topic, you can find that here, plus don't miss their traditional episode of Unseriously replete with the usual silliness here.

Kara Jones is licensed to see clients located in Alabama at the time of service and can be reached here via the Covenant Counseling web site. Kara recommends the database for the American Board of Christian Sex Therapists to locate a like-minded and trained sex therapist certified for your geographical location.

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Don't just honk from the driveway, come on up to the door for this special Memorial Day episode from author and illustrator Matt Tavares. Along with Jeff Gottesfeld, Matt has created two very special patriotic picture books, Honor Flight, and 21 Steps, that he and Holly will discuss, along with all the anticipated Unseriously silliness. Matt will tell Holly about putting his beloved family members into awkward scenarios, that time in Nebraska where he got shamed by Google maps, and doubling down on the bad jokes...plus Ryan T. Higgins will just keep showing up. Don't miss the parts near the end where Matt explains the military honor of a "challenge coin," plus hear this purveyor of wide-eyed wonder talk about being in the room with a whole bunch of esteemed service members. While Memorial Day is special and distinct from Veteran's Day, it's still a great day to call your favorite veteran or active-duty military serviceperson and thank them for their service...tell them you see what they did there. We hope this episode of Unseriously makes you want to do just that!

Be sure to check @hollymacklebooks on Instagram to enter to win a special Memorial Day giveaway of Matt's patriotic books straight from Candlewick Press.

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Don't let her interrupt you, but Carolyn Weber would like to talk Kardashians and moral ethics. Prepare to be charmed by author and esteemed* scholar Carolyn Weber. She and Holly will chat puns, fairy tales, and that streaker poem...not to mention how Carolyn really just wants to do a craft with you. Hear how TDH morphed into TBH, but don't dare judge either him, the Sludgy Pudgy Judgey, or the fact that Carolyn is probably wearing maternity pants right this minute.

Carolyn's next book, Four Questions God Asks: Responding to God's Invitation for a Deeper Relationship with Him, is out with Baker Books this November, and Holly of course recommends Carolyn's Oxford years memoir, Surprised by Oxford. Find Carolyn on her web site, carolynweber.com, or on Twitter.

*just don't ask her kids to opine on that esteemed part

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Surprise! And happy summer! Just in time for summer reading it's a bonus Unseriously all about the summertime reads. We'll have a little something for everyone--easy summer rom-com recs from Sarah Armstrong, aka @simply.sarahendipity, some literary fiction recs from English teacher Nicole Conrad of @theturnedpage_bhm, and family-friendly read-aloud recs for all ages direct from Holly. PLUS: don't miss the invitation to The Joy Luck Summer--a no cost/no stakes invite to join all three of us in reading Amy Tan's The Joy Luck Club, and meeting online for book club together, Monday night, June 29th. Hope you enjoy this episode, get that library hold placed for The Joy Luck Club, and stay tuned to any of our Instagram's for details on The Joy Luck Summer!

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Count out the syllables, it's Larry Bolden and Anisa Sumlar of the Wellspring Group up this week to talk about collaboration, community, and...learning?? It's a heart-level episode that bounces from the silly to the meaningful and back again--plus, gird up your loins for a couple of Holly's particular soap boxes.

You can find resources for your church or small group study at Wellspring Group, or look for their book, Becoming Whole-Hearted, one of Holly's 5-star reads for 2026 so far, out now and available here.

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Another bucket list checkmark for Unseriously--it's author, humorist, and girl dad Harrison Scott Key. This is a heartwarming one punctuated by the theater of the absurd that is the plane on which Harrison operates. Harrison and Holly will talk bicycles, New Kids, and giant tortoises, plus be sure to stick around for the B-roll where Harrison gives Holly a compliment...she thinks? Don't miss the ⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠ Instagram post for this episode so you can see that foot photo zoomed out to the delightfulness that is Harrison's youngest daughter, and of course you don't want to miss Harrison himself ⁠on Instagram⁠.

Holly recommends ⁠The World's Largest Man⁠ as a book club pick and ⁠How to Stay Married ⁠as the one to argue about with your small group.

Find Harrison on ⁠his web site⁠ or possibly lurking behind you, and look for him accepting the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor any day now--we're pulling for you, Harrison!

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Oh-De-Lally, you're in for a good one. It's the PG episode featuring some unbelievable hijinks from Glenna Marshall, Bob Flayhart, Amanda Cleary Eastep, Lia Ross, and Annie B. Jones. Moonshine makes not one, but two appearances, as does William Faulkner and that pesky skunk...who maybe we should henceforth refer to as William Faulkner. These 5 guests had some super fun episodes, but my oh my do they combine for an excellent PG romp. Hope you enjoy!

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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It's Joyce from Stranger Things!

Nah...it's our favorite English teacher, Nicole Conrad. She may always read the book, but hear the stories of how she is not to be trusted with famous people. Holly and Nicole will talk memorable haircuts, that wedding video, and certifiable wimpiness while watching Alone, plus book club fun and trope mash-up requests...this is a funny one with the bookstagrammer from @theturnedpage_bham.

Holly would like to apologize for being especially laughy during this episode but would like to justify it by saying that Nicole is one of her absolute favorite people and there are jokes behind the jokes--so many they couldn't all be stuffed into one episode. So until we can have Nicole back on again--enjoy this one!

Nicole is a great follow on Instagram, and you can sign up for her Substack. She's also happy for you to reach out to ask for her help in picking a book club read.

Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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