There are friendly nations, but no friendly intelligence services, goes an old saw in the spy business. What that means in practicality is that we have close intelligence relationships with our allies, but in many cases, we also spy on each other, not entirely trusting what they’re telling us.  In no place is this convoluted arrangement better exemplified than the security relationship between US and Israel, who have a long history of snooping on each other while closely working together on mutual targets, like Iran and its allied militias, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and now, Hamas in Gaza. 

Here to discuss that with me today is my old friend and colleague Jonathan Broder. He’s been in and out of the Middle East for decades, in particular Israel, whose struggles and wars he began covering many decades ago as a foreign correspondent for the Associated Press and Chicago Tribune based in Tel Aviv. He’s also been a foreign policy editor and writer for Congressional Quarterly and Newsweek, and today we’re blessed to have him as a contributing editor at SpyTalk, where he’s written a number of shrewd pieces since the Hamas invasion of Israel last Oct. 7.

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