Warden's Watch

By Wayne Saunders / John Nores

This podcast brings you stories from Game Wardens across the world. Listen to their favorite cases, worst cases, what led them to their career, and what makes their job unique. Hosted by retired game ... more

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September 23, 2021 TGL021 Alex Baer
Alex Baer has a passion for the outdoors, wildlife, and his lifelong search for new ways to accomplish meaningful work has led him to a new position as COO with IHEA-USA. Alex is directly contributing to the growth and development of hunter education while continuing to further R3 initiatives for the industry. Before joining the IHEA-USA, Alex consulted on projects for private industry as well as the Council to Advance Hunting and the Shooting Sports as well as the National Wildlife Turkey Federation. Prior to that, Alex was the Sales Director at onXmaps contributing to their significant growth for 5 years while also acting as R3 Coordinator for onX where he built partner relationships with conservation NGOs, industry associations, and state and wildlife organizations.

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September 16, 2021068 The Colebrook Murders Part IV - Featuring Counselor Paula Booth
Counselor Paula Booth has been working with law enforcement officers and other clients for over 35 years with the state of New Hampshire. Her unique knowledge of critical incidents and trauma response has made her a valuable asset to many agencies. She is also the director for the New Hampshire Employee Assistant Program. Paula has a masters degree in clinical social work from Boston University, is a member of the National Academy of Certified Social Workers, and is nationally certified as an employee assistance professional. Additionally, she has served as the president of the Grant State employee assistant program. Paula works on the governor and attorney general’s commission on domestic violence, and is an advisor to the state government's decision makers.Her lectures at conferences, community events, and state sponsored events are well renowned. To Wayne, Paula Booth was his counselor after the critical incident that took place in Colebook in which he was shot.

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Here's What We Discuss:
Introduction to Paula Booth
Counseling is very different in today’s world
Wayne’s breaking point
Counseling is for everyone
Everyone has a critical incident in their life
Healthy people get help
Education on counseling to law enforcement
We ask for help all the time, why not this?
Affects officers, family members, peers
Academy program: stress management in law enforcement
Traumatic experience from those that were on vacation
Critical incident tools
Simple, briefs directives
Eat something simple
Don’t fill the silence
Look into programs
Supervisors and peers watch you
Don’t use a cookie cutter approach
Connection is important
I’ve got the best job in the world
Make it palatable
If I didn’t have counseling, I wouldn’t have finished my career
Horrible week for New Hampshire
Approach it from a problem solving perspective
Make the appointment, you can always cancel it
Give and take
Uniform represents so much
Partners and supporters take the journey too

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 12min
September 02, 2021067 The Colebrook Murders Part III - Featuring Kevin Jordan
Colonel Kevin Jordan has worked for the New Hampshire Department of Fish and Game for over 20 years. After the Colebrook Murders, he became a critical incident specialist. In this episode, Wayne discusses the Colebrook Murders with Colonel Jordan and how each of them experienced the situation.

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Here's What We Discuss:
Field day in Quebec
Weren’t aware two were murdered
5 crime scenes, many different units
Couldn’t talk on the radio, too much chatter
I could hear Wayne screaming
Went to grab two deer rifles, raced to confront
John had his fingers embedded in my dash as I went 100 mph
I was livid he shot you, I wanted to kill him
The troopers had a look about them
Dispatchers were crying on the radio
He went home to change and shave
Laying across the dash, looked like he committed suicide
Both shoot at the same time; Drega wearing campaign hat
If you engage him, you’ll have to kill him
I know what type of guy I am now
You can train someone, but you don’t know how they’ll react in fight or flight
He was on the bank; changed our plan
98 shots fired
Drega was dead
I decided I needed a cigarette
Both sides of the road were lined with cruisers
I thought I was gonna get fired
His house had bombs in it
Ran to the bathroom and threw up
Some will defend Drega; there will be funerals
Went to visit Wayne in a packed cruiser
Cheers when Wayne came back; brought to tears
Ordered to go to counseling
New equipment after the event

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 19min
August 19, 2021066 The Colebrook Murders Part II - My Badge Saved My Life
In this episode our two hosts become an interviewer and an interviewee. In 1997, a rogue gunman began a violent rampage in the town of Colebrook. One of the responding officers, Warden Wayne Saunders of New Hampshire was injured in an attempt to apprehend the subject. The badge he wore on that day deflected the bullet shot by the suspect and saved his life. In this episode Wayne tells his personal account of that day and how it affected his life.

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Here's What We Discuss:
Episode dedicated to Senior Corporal Jeff Neal of Hope, Arkansas
Dedicated to Scott Phillips and Leslie Lord, New Hampshire State Police
Survived a critical incident in a small town
A regular day with a field day the next day
Report of a stolen cruiser, possibly by a kid
“Turn off your blue lights”
Jurisdictional issues in mind
Dust hanging under a bridge pass
Man with a campaign hat pointing a gun 15 yards away
Cover and concealment
Everything was in slow motion, yelled at people in a restaurant to leave
Backed up slow, then fast into a tree
I didn’t know what was going on
Center of the badge was shot off
Ricochet of the 7 rounds
Don’t my boots; sorry I wrecked the cruiser
Shredded my bicep, scarred to this day
Found out what happened from the news
Staying in the fight even when injured
From the hospital to funerals
Brothers holding me up
Improving communication, switched rifles
New York response team
It takes a horrible incident for improvement
The only woman that made me cry: physical therapist breaking down scar tissue
Negative comments made me transfer
Critical incident fallout; learning experience
Worse for your partner to get shot than to be the victim
Physical and mental pain
I always wanted to be the cowboy in the woods, no one would take that for me
Brought game wardens to state police with shooting pay support
We’re always on duty
More tools available now
Pack of wardens
Usually not next to cruiser
People hide and hide things in the woods
Educate the public on what we go through

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 25min
August 12, 2021 TGL020 Kip Adams
As deer season opens across the country for 2021, we open up a conservation conversation with Kip Adams, the director of the Nation Deer Association. Kip is a certified wildlife biologist and QDMA's Director of Conservation. He has a bachelor's degree in wildlife and fisheries science from Penn State University and a master's in wildlife from the University of New Hampshire. He's also a certified taxidermist. Before joining QDMA, Kip was the deer and bear biologist for the New Hampshire Fish & Game Department.

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1h 3min
August 05, 2021065 The Colebrook Murders Part I - Ft. Richard Adams Carey
Richard Adams Carey is the author of the book “In The Evil Day” in which he discusses the events of the violent 1997 shooting in Colebrook, New Hampshire in which Wayne Saunders was shot. Richard grew up in Connecticut and attended Harvard. He moved around the country while writing various books that are acclaimed by The New York Times, Alaska Magazine, and more. In this interview, Adams Carey explains his background, research for the book, the community around Colebrook, and much more.

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Here's What We Discuss:
The Colebrook Murders
Putting the puzzle pieces together
Not enough exposure on the event
Listings in a telephone book
Went about the book stupidly
Battle between burying the incident and opening up
Expected to “suck it up” after incidents
Challenge: freedom of information
Dissecting the documents; generosity of agencies
No sense of competition in law enforcement
Not a typical true crime book
Mindset of those in the community
Flirtations with militia groups
National problem with little reporting
Breakdown of the incident
The good out of the incident
Civilian heroes
Outsider looking in to insider looking in
Book title

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 10min
July 22, 2021064 Lonnie Sushil - Florida
Lonnie Sushil is a game warden with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (SA), and is the Commander of the SA Special Operations Group (SOG). Florida’s SOG group was created after 9/11 and focuses on homeland security as well as public service. Lonnie commands 14 operators in the alpha south region of the state.

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Here's What We Discuss:
Merging of Thin Green Line into Warden’s Watch
Lonnie’s background
Creation of SOG in Florida
Duties of the group
Diversity of warden training
Ecosystem differences within Florida
SOG is a collateral duty
Collaborative training
Picking out the oddities
Academy and training
Female officers
Assess people up front

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 10min
July 15, 2021 TGL019 Charlie Pitt - Rural Badge
Located in the rural mountains of the western United States, Charlie Pitt has been part of the blue family for more than 30 years. Charlie's training and background are in writing, marketing, recruiting and teaching. Charlie is a self proclaimed newshound, data junkie, word nerd. I use those things to write about rural law enforcement, the ones who love them, past issues and current events.

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1h 14min
July 08, 2021063 Todd Vandivert - Washington Part II
Todd Vandivert was a game warden for 34 years with the Washington Department of Natural Resources, and now writes books about his experiences. He worked both as a uniformed officer and also as an undercover officer, making multiple cases in each position. Todd’s work as an author is well-known, especially his book Operation Cody in which he breaks down his role in the operation. In this episode, Todd discusses his upbringing, work as a warden, and life as an author.
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Here's What We Discuss:
Started with bighorn sheep
One toe in the water
Wildlife trafficker, cock fighting, and marijuana growth
Being a uniformed officer is more dangerous than undercover
Dangerous individual
Operation shut down early
Breaks to the media
The takedown
Detailing the cockfights
Didn’t write the book to make money
Small circles of people
Bigger busts undercover
Hard to kick a case down the road with a good case in your hands
Sturgeon caviar
Only would talk to Russians
Officer exchanges
6 written books
Examine the crime scene: physical evidence but no suspect
The individual who didn’t lie
Rolled into a larger case
Put yourself in other’s shoes
Bear poop in my mouth

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 5min
June 24, 2021062 Todd Vandivert - Washington Part I
Todd Vandivert was a game warden for 34 years with the Washington Department of Natural Resources, and now writes books about his experiences. He worked both as a uniformed officer and an undercover officer, making multiple cases in each position. Todd’s work as an author is well-known, especially his book Operation Cody in which he breaks down his role in the operation. In this episode, Todd discusses his upbringing, work as a warden, and life as an author.

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Here's What We Discuss:
34 years as a game warden
Born in California
Love of the outdoors while raised in Virginia
Plan was to go into the Navy; failed color vision test
Flying career came to an end, went into oceanography
Rethought decisions and went into forestry
Started working in a habitat area
Cameras everywhere
First posing
Work as an undercover
The issues with informants
The case: hound hunting with lions
The “Kill ‘Em All Boys”
Conference
More exposure = more hazardous
Each state has different laws
Built a fake business: website, posters, business cards, etc
Best of the wild
Lawful stuff close to unlawful
Poacher within two days
Misrepresenting product is still illegal
Taking DNA
Rotted mountain lion and a paycheck
Dried dates as a decoy to Hong Kong
Growing operations and money laundering
Interior decorator setup
Entrapment debate

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1h 10min

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