This is a short excerpt of the longer conversation I had with Hannah Duder where we talked about her te reo Māori journey and discovering more about her whakapapa. For generations in Aotearoa New Zealand people were told not to speak and to bury their culture - we discuss that and what it is to explore finding this part of yourself.

Be watching for the full episode coming out soon.

More conversations are at www.theseeds.nz