What Came Next

What Came Next

By Broken Cycle Media

What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the ... more

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  1. Number 1: 191: [Ginger Goetz] An Uphill Battle She Was Losing // Part 1

    Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder. Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has shared her and her mother’s story on many different platforms including Evil Lives Here, Deadly Women, Snapped, and more. She does so to honor her mother, Carlene, and to help others who may be navigating similar violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Ginger’s time, energy, and shared mission in grief. These two episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Carlene Conley. If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region. For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help. Thank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. To get your new wireless plan for just $15 a month, go to mintmobile.com/wcn!

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  2. Number 2: 192: [Ginger Goetz] What if She's Set Free? // Part 2

    Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder. Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has shared her and her mother’s story on many different platforms including Evil Lives Here, Deadly Women, Snapped, and more. She does so to honor her mother, Carlene, and to help others who may be navigating similar violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Ginger’s time, energy, and shared mission in grief. These two episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Carlene Conley. If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region. For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help. Thank you again to Cash App for sponsoring this episode. Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPod Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.

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  3. Number 3: 190: [Liz] Like a Mime Trapped in a Box

    Content warning: stalking, child sexual abuse material, childhood sexual abuse, kidnapping, rape. Liz is a mother and survivor from New York. When she was 14 years old, the police launched an investigation with her next door neighbor as the subject because they suspected he had a nefarious plan to groom and likely abuse Liz. After several months navigating an eye-opening, life-changing criminal justice process, Liz was left to heal largely on her own as her freshman year of high school ended. In this episode, Liz shares her poignant perspective of what it means to be a survivor and the reality of healing from adolescent trauma in adulthood. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her time, energy, & desire to help others by sharing her story. For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you to Rula & Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod And all listeners can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets!

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  4. Number 4: 189: [Rasul T. Freelain] I Have to Tell Sheila's Story

    Content warning: murder, parricide, matricide, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and false reporting. Rasul T. Freelain is an author and award-winning, retired veteran of the Oak Park Police Department in Illinois. Throughout his 20-year career, he served in roles including Youth Services Supervisor, Patrol Sergeant, and Detective. It was amidst his work with children and families that he recognized the concept of child-to-parent violence, nearly a decade prior to meeting Sheila von Wiese Mack. Over the span of years, Rasul would be a resource for Sheila as she struggled through an increasingly violent abuse cycle at the hands of her daughter, Heather. Prior to Sheila’s 2014 murder, Rasul tried to see Heather face accountability for the abuse in a system that didn’t require it. With his book, When Lambs Become Wolves, he is hoping to bring awareness to the pervasive issue of Child-to-Parent Violence and Abuse and offer Sheila a chance to share her narrative after her murder. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Sheila von Wiese Mack. If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region. For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help. Support Rasul: - Rasul's website: https://www.whenlambsbecomewolves.com/ - Rasul's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/protecting_lambs - Rasul's Book: https://www.siupress.com/9780809339969/when-lambs-become-wolves/ Visit Parent Real Talk: http://www.parentrealtalk.com Listen to [Tabatha Ross-Brown] Believed Instead of Blamed: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tabatha-ross-brown-believed-instead-of-blamed/id1674051643?i=1000655144155 Sources: Tarigan, Edna. “American Is Freed after 11 Years for Bali ‘Suitcase Murder,’ but a US Case Awaits.” AP News, 25 Feb. 2026, https://apnews.com/article/indonesia-bali-suitcase-murder-schaefer-77946e160861d16c45e5f54b2ee02640 Thank you again to Mint Mobile and Vinted for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that to get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to mintmobile.com/wcn & give your clothes a second life with Vinted. Download the Vinted app for free to start selling with no seller fees, so you keep everything you earn. Plus, for a limited time, enjoy free shipping in the US on Vinted.

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  5. Number 5: 187: [Jordan Wulf] The Night I Gained My Freedom Back // Part 2

    Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes. If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region. If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.org For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Jones Road Beauty & Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to use code WCN at jonesroadbeauty.com to get a Free Gift with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty #ad And to get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to mintmobile.com/wcn. That’s it, there’s no catch!

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