Episode 64: Neal and Toby break down what would happen if the US defaults. Plus the guys talk about Instagram throwing its hat in the battle of text-based platforms. Then, is the allure of E-Sports starting to fade? A look into the stagnant industry and if it's time to give up on its future. Lastly, Cava gets ready for IPO, debt ceiling update, and a whale problem that is wreaking havoc in Europe that may be a sign of a killer whale revolution.

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