This episode of the Zeitcast features Matthew Paul Turner co-author of the recent book What is God Like. Here’s a note from Jonathan. “I can’t tell you what a soul-stirring, hope-building, heart-rending conversation I had with William Paul Turner focusing in on this was new book with the late @rachelheldevans is a gift that people of any & every age need, & I cannot recommend it highly enough. Thank you for this exquisite book and conversation—I am so much richer for them both.

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