The way we talk about mental health in Aotearoa is changing for the better. But we often don’t realise that those we deal with every day, even some of the people close to us, are facing intense personal struggles. 
 
NZ Herald health reporter Emma Russell has quietly fought to manage her bipolar disorder over the last few years. An exceptional reporter, few of her colleagues knew of Emma’s struggles. 
 
Today, Emma Russell, joins Damien to explain that what you see on the surface isn’t always what’s going on behind the scenes.

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