What's the Temp?

In this episode, the ladies talk about womanhood and the details we should all pay attention to in order to show up as our most confident selves no matter who’s in the audience. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Give them something to behold.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intro

01:02 Daily Ritual Temp Check

19:49 Backstory: How your personal care or hygiene rituals reveal your relationship with yourself

25:15 Things Betina shared about womanhood

34:09 Life Focus: finding the divine in your everyday / creating rituals that honor your body and spirit

45:36 Learning how to dress

51:32 Recipes: Morning ritual bowl

Betina’s Bowl

Frozen potatoes O’Brien on Griddle with oil

Toss in chopped veggies (Betina uses tomatoes, mushroom bell pepper and onion)

Add Sausage

And sautee until done

Last scramble two eggs and blend together

Season with salt and pepper

Jen’s

Vanilla Bean Greek Yogurt and peaches

Avocado taco: Smash avocado onto a fried corn tortilla, add a little salt and roll

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

19:36 “Sunset Serenade” - dvine

33:50 “Might As Well Be on the Moon” - Mimmi Bangoura

45:16 “Evening Reggae” - Sir Gigalot

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This is the first episode of Season Two and we’re thrilled to have completed our first three months of consistent podcasting. In Sacred Rest, the hosts reflect on the importance of controlling the pace of life, the practice of presence, and eliminating distractions.

Time stamps:

00:00 Season Two Intro/Three Monthiversary

02:10 Welcome

03:05 Jen brought the idea of streamlining tasks to Betina

07:09 Energy temp checks

20:35 Back Story: How we’ve supported each other’s rest needs

29:58 The poverty of our intentions quote

32:10 Intentionality that makes room for rest

33:45 Clarifying question: How do you manage unscheduled communication?

40:38 Life focus: Rest as productivity and spiritual necessity

46:38 Setting boundaries with time

47:37 Example: Cheap technology dopamine hits

58:17 Recipes: Sabbath Slow cooker dish

Jen: Mississippi Pot Roast

Key: Do not season the meat

Brown the chuck roast on both sides

1 packet of ranch dressing mix

1 packet of au jus gravy mix

Butter

Peppercini peppers

Slow cook

Serve as you like: over potatoes, as a dip, etc.

Betina: Beef Stew

Season Chuck roast chunks with: seasoning salt, garlic powder, cajun seasoning, black pepper

Cooking it the long way (considering this is a slow cook recipe), I coat the meat with flour and brown in a skillet

Transfer to the crock pot

Cut veggies: Red potatoes (cut in quarters), carrots, celery, onion, garlic,

Add carrots, onion, garlic, celery

Tomato paste (I only use half a can)

Worcestershire sauce

2 Bay leaves

Fresh rosemary

Red wine (optional) ½ cut

Mix beef bouillon with water (two cups)

Cook on low for 8 hours or high for 4

Serve with rice. Crackers or cornbread

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

20:25 “Vibe Check” - OTE

40:27 “I Feel Good (Instrumental Version)” - Mama Zula

62:44 “Outlaw Funk” - OTE

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This episode explores the profound impact of both born and chosen families on personal growth and relationships. Jen and Betina dive deep into navigating complex family dynamics, understanding what makes chosen family relationships so transformative, and how to honor blood ties while creating meaningful connections with others.

Time stamps:

00:45 Family relationship temp check

04:35 Jen discusses a listener's insights about ADHD traits

11:43 Jen sharing gems from her born and chosen families

15:15 Backstory: How we’ve navigated family dynamics together

15:20 Betina shares her revelation that born and chosen families are divinely curated and why

10:05 Clarifying Question: What qualities or what about the relationships made them so impactful?

24:11 Alignment moment: Jen’s first real friend having qualities she wanted more of

32:10 Betina on taking ownership of the qualities you desire to become the best version of yourself

35:12 A stranger spoke life into Jen / Crying on a Tues-dee

37:40 Life focus: Creating chosen family while honoring your blood ties

38:35 Jen acting on love which requires honoring blood ties / fear of intimacy

46:14 Tested relationships

47:50 Betina’s framework for chosen family

56:14 Recipes: Heritage Dish

Betina’s Family’s Cornbread Dressing

Keys to success: Homemade Cornbread and Stock

Stock:

In a stock pot add:

Turkey or chicken parts

Water

Diced: celery, onion, bell pepper

Season with: Chicken bouillon, seasoning salt, garlic powder, pepper, cajun seasoning, poultry seasoning, sage (little)

Boil

Cornbread 1 Cup flour, 1 Cup Cornmeal, ¼ cup sugar, Pinch of salt, 8 teaspoons baking powder

1 egg

Milk

Mix well (no lumps)

In baking dish melt butter

Pour excess butter into cornbread batter

Fill pan

Bake until golden brown and let cool

Sauteed Vegetables:

Dice more: Celery (lots), onion, bell pepper

Sautee in skillet with a stick of butter until soft and fragrant

To a roasting pan add 1 box Mrs. Cubbison’s seasoned Cornbread stuffing mix

Crumble in cornbread

Add about 2 cups of stock and begin mixing

Add 1 can cream of mushroom soup

Pour in sauteed vegetables

Mix

Season with Poultry seasoning, pinch of sage, seasoning salt (to taste) garlic powder, white pepper

Bake for about 45 minutes at 350 degrees checking periodically for dryness

Remember to add stock as necessary.

I add meat from stock to the top and bake uncovered for about 20 more minutes

Luke’s Mom’s Hamburger Helper

1lb ground meat (turkey or beef)

2 cans tomato soup

1 carrot

1 celery rib

½ cup onion

½ cup red or green pepper

2 Tbsp Worcestershire sauce

½ box macaroni shells

Peel and chop vegetables

Sautee vegetables with meat

Add both cans of tomato soup

Add 2 cans water

Add W sauce

Bring to a boil

Add macaroni

Simmer for 10 minutes or until noodles are done stirring occasionally

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

Betina and Jen explore the relationship between failure, growth, and redefining success through personal stories of resilience.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

0:45 Resilience Temp Check

16:48 Backstory: The Greatest failures that led to growth

17:02 Jen's greatest failure: Life from a risk-averse standpoint

32:29 Betina's greatest failure: Life from a risk-tolerant standpoint

44:58 Life Focus: Redefining success and embracing setbacks

45:39 Jen's resident setback: believing alcoholism made good musicians

51:45 Jen's greatest success: Service to others/kindness to herself

55:05 Connectedness answers addiction

57:00 Betina redefining success: What do I want my dash to look like?

1:04:18 Quote

1:07:53 Recipes: Recovery meal

1:12:45 Correction from previous episode

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

14:33 “Rawhide” - Guustavv

31:40 “Billboard Boulevard” - Mo Stacks

43:55 “Shake Off the Heat” - Eric Williams

59:34/78:15 “Kwaito Night” - Mansa

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Betina and Jen have candid conversations about their personal relationships with weight, body image, and physical wellbeing. They share individual stories about emotional eating, fitness journeys, finding self-love despite external pressures and shame loops around body image. The episode focuses on building healthier relationships with their bodies while discussing practical approaches like different diets, exercise routines, and overcoming disordered eating patterns.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

1:01 Jen’s Physical Wellbeing Temp Check

7:11 Betina’s Physical Wellbeing Temp Check

10:30 The shame loop surrounding weight

12:41 Betina’s Lindora story

15:33 Being an outlier with a both/and attitude

19:15 Finding self-love when the positive messaging wasn’t coming from outside

23:35 Becoming / Achieving mastery in various areas of life

27:30 The curtsy

29:15 Backstory: Supporting each other through body changes/challenges

30:20 Jen’s jam - Zumba / Harlem adventures

39:55 High metabolism / controlling the sugar spikes / Extrava-GANZA

43:50 Betina - active yet overweight

45:10 Jen’s weight at different times of her life and love of food

48:05 The weight goal for Betina / Whole 30

51:10 Bouncing back after babies / Jen’s favorite bagel sandwich

54:52 Betina’s attempt to overcome emotional eating / Favorite Snack

1:01:05 Life Focus: How do we build a healthy relationship with our bodies

1:09:28 Disordered eating / Healing in every area for balance

1:16:41 Recipes: Nourishment Bowl

Recipes:

Betina’s Veggie Scramble

Cut desired vegetables

Mushroom, spinach. Red onions, bell peppers (all colors), tomato (Betina’s usual mix)

Sautee in olive or avocado oil

Scramble with 3 eggs

Season with italian seasoning or garlic and herb seasoning

Jen’s Kale Salad (Lyla’s recipe)

Kale (cleaned) massaged with salt and olive oil

Peppitos

Dried cranberries

Candied walnuts

Blueberries

Dressing: Maple syrup and dijon mustard base with oil and vinegar (apple cider or red wine)

Seasoning: salt and pepper

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

15:01 “Starfields” - Hallman

28:51 “Modest” - Katori Walker

45:07 “Some Days” - Mo Stacks

54:16 “Juega con el Tumbao” - El Equipo del Norte

68:28 “Movin On Up” - Ryan James Carr

81:07“Modest” - Katori Walker

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In this surprisingly bright episode, Betina affectionately remembers her baby brother BJ and Jen identifies with how light shines through in the broken places. Then the discussion turns metaphysical as they discuss finding hope during dark times.

00:47 Temp Check - Hope Temperatures

00:58 Betina’s Temp Check - remembering her brother that just passed away

02:05 One Headlight

13:57 Jen’s Temp Check - reflecting on light with Bob in Costa Rica coincidentally after Uncle Bob’s passing

19:04 Betina Sharing Memories of BJ

26:00 Wrapping up Jen’s Hope Temp check

29:25 Betina leaning in to faith because it gives hope

32:25 Jen answering how to develop spirituality being brought up as a non-believer

36:50 Science and religion - Both/And

38:07 Psychiatry - The soft science according to the family scientist

41:21 Supporting each others’ evolving visions beginning with Betina

55:55 Jen’s future vision for her family

1:07:25 The superpower of Love

1:09:11 Recipes

1:19:10 Closing thoughts Romans 8:28

Betina’s Smoothies

Handful of spinach

½ Avocado

Fresh and/or frozen fruit

1 cup Water

Jen’s Pickled Red Onions

Red onion sliced large

2 cups white vinegar

2 cups Water

⅓ cup Cane sugar

2 tbsp Sea salt

Optional:

Garlic cloves and peppercorn

Music credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

13:35 “Ladies First” - John Runefelt

29:00 “Sunny Daydreams” - Raccy

40:35 “Soul Over Matter” - HATAMITSUNAMI

55:38 “Copacabana” - Onda Norte

68:45 “Living in My Dreams” - Mimmi Bangoura

79:35 “Sunny Daydreams” - Raccy

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Betina and Jen recount their most significant life transitions. They begin with a seasonal temp check, and there’s a high note when they discover that they each froze their butts off at the Mid-Winter Dental Meeting in Chicago before they met. Jen remembers her many attempts to find geographical cures for homelessness within herself, then loses it over the loss of her beloved Uncle Bob. Jen finds hope in letting his spirit live through her every day, and they both take inspiration from his equanimity and the joyful, unattached way he lived his life.

0:00 Intros

0:42 Life Seasons Temp Check

05:08 Betina’s seasonal deep cleaning

06:21 Backstory: Major transitions we’ve supported each other through

10:01 Betina and Jen share their memories of freezing at the Midwinter Dental meeting in Chicago

14:48 Jen’s geographical cures: 1st stop, Portland, Oregon

21:20 Clubbing and how differently they approach it

25:10 Betina’s conversations with her straight-laced daughters

29:30 Jen betrayed by the sunshine in California

35:00 The biggest transition in Jen’s life: Losing Uncle Bob

45:40 Jen drawing back from relationships to make room to grieve

54:40 Betina sharing a belief of a person dying when their life purpose is fulfilled

58:00 Showing love through acts of service vs. EQ (emotional intelligence)

62:50 Uncle Bob never tried to fix Jen in her brokenness; he just loved her / visit to New Orleans

66:07 Life Focus: Embracing change while maintaining friendships

78:17 Betina’s visit to NJ / Lightly salted potato chips

79:30 Recipes

Recipes: Season Transition Comfort Food

Chicken Tortellini Soup

Season chicken breasts: seasoning salt, garlic powder, Cajun seasoning, and black pepper

brown in the skillet with avocado oil

remove and sautee onions, carrots. and garlic

return chicken

add chicken broth

season with Italian seasoning, paprika, salt and pepper

add fresh rosemary and thyme

simmer for 45 minutes

remove chicken and chop roughly

Pour in bag of tortellini

add heavy cream and fresh parmesan cheese

Jen’s Broccoli Mushroom Soup

Sautee one finely chopped onion in olive oil

Brown 8 oz mushrooms

Add 3 cloves minced garlic

Add 4 cups vegetable stock and 1 small head broccoli and bring to a boil, then simmer for 40 min

Use blender or immersion blender to blend

Add ½ cup heavy cream and ½ cup parm, salt and pepper to taste

Serve hot with fresh parsley and crusty bread

Music Credits:

00:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

14:30 “Zigaboos Walk” - El Flaco Collective

26:22 “spot” - Cushy

34:10 “Summer’s Hot” - Katori Walker

51:25 “Is It Over Now” - Gloria Tells

66:05 “Cramp Blues” - John Runefelt

78:02, 88:23 “Sunset” - OTE

There are two subjects they don’t teach in school that you have to learn as an adult: personal finance and… BOUNDARIES. Jen has an established pattern of inviting people into her life, with no credentials needed, and then harboring resentments when they inadvertently violate her nonexistent boundaries. Betina’s MO was to say nothing for the first few transgressions, then to explode in a way where the punishment didn’t fit the crime. Today’s discussion explores the concept of boundaries not as black and white but as fluid, circumstantial, and always evolving.

0:00 Intros

2:00 Jen’s Boundary Temp Check

06:38 Getting to a place of grace before a hard conversation can lead to growth

11:30 Betina’s Boundary Temp Check

12:45 Sharing about setting a podcasting boundary

17:45 Co-host appreciation

18:30 The boundary spectrum

19:25 How Betina destroyed relationships in the past

21:10 The power in processing and safety in wise counsel

22:30 Betina as a mama bear/right but wrong

24:35 Different levels of boundary work/the fluidity of boundaries

25:35 Jen’s slow processing style/people-pleasing

32:00 Betina is not allowing anyone to break her child’s spirit

32:40 Jen showing compassion to an issue that Betina was having with another person

34:33 Taking things personally/the price tag of anger

38:30 Young Jen wanted a mentor

44:18 Jen recently learned that a boundary is a request

4510: Betina agrees, BUT how the person responds informs your next actions

53:00 Willingness means a lot in a relationship

56:54 Red/Yellow/Green Theory in relationship

1:02:00 Jen’s aversion to the objectification of women

1:03:25 Feminism vs Femininity

1:07:00 Respecting each other's differences/the power of knowing your values

1:09:00 The power of an honest no

1:16:30 Conflicting values

Recipes: Boundary Bowl

Jen’s Thai Peanut Bowl

Slice cucumbers, carrots, scallions, avocado, and place over rice or noodles

Peanut Sauce

Peanut butter

Soy sauce

Brown sugar

Lime juice

Garlic

Ginger

Coconut milk

Chili sauce

Betina’s Veggie Bowl

Chop your veggies:

Tomato, shitake mushrooms, yam, onion, bell pepper

Sautee using avocado oil

Seasoning:

Himalayan sea salt, Cajun seasoning, pepper

Sliced carrots, spinach, and kale. Optional

Can of black beans

Plate over cauliflower rice

Cilantro lime dressing

1 small Avocado

Lime juice

¼ cup Greek yogurt

½ cup water

Cilantro

Garlic past

Sea salt

And blend

Music Credits:

00:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

18:06 “Bring Me Home Again” - OTE

34:15 “The Spirit” - Daniel Fridell

49:40 “Good Things Will Come Eventually” - DJ DENZ The Rooster

65:37 “Love Me Like That” - Deanz

84:25 “My Backbeat” - Gregory David

97:21 “Love Me Like That” - Deanz

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Episode 4

Jen and Betina discuss how over-attachment never serves success. Betina dishes biblical wisdom while Jen leans into mysticism; as always, they find the common thread.

00:00 Intros

00:30 Relationship Temp Checks

06:21 Jen sheds light on what happens when she holds on too tightly

*Baby Shoes

*Mugs

*Baby furniture

17:30 Supporting honest growth through life changes

18:10 Betina's observation of holding things loosely/focusing on purpose

20:40 Jen's intention of transparency

22:50 Betina's estimation of the real cost of not prioritizing tasks

29:45 Beauty in limitlessness

31:15 David's journey to the throne/Babylon acting as God's whipping spoon

39:25 Jen's definition of god

42;36 How to use accountability in relationships or as life transitions

45:03 Jen's relationship with time. They are not friends

51:45 Recipes

Recipes - Comfort Foods

Cynthia’s Chicken Enchilada Casserole

1 chicken boiled and deboned

1 onion diced

2 Oz of green chiles

1 can cream of mushroom soup

1 can cream of chicken soup

A dozen corn tortillas

½ lb sharp cheddar, ½ lb jack or whatever your preference, shredded

Sautee the onions then throw in the soups and chiles to heat then throw in the chicken.

Cut the tortillas into triangles and then cover a Pyrex with some of the tortillas, then layer the soup mix, then cheese on top, and then layer again.

350 in the oven for an hour or 400 for 40 minutes, top with red enchilada sauce

Zuppa Toscano

cut bacon into smaller pieces cook remove from pot

Brown 1 lb mild Italian sausage remove from pot

Remove excess fat

Add peeled and chopped potatoes

Mix beef bouillon with water, add to potatoes to boil

While boiling clean and chop kale and

chop an onion

Once potatoes are tender

return the sausage to the pot

add onion

Season to taste:

Seasoning salt

Garlic paste

Italian seasoning

Oregano

Garlic and Herb seasoning

Add heavy cream to thicken the broth

Add kale for last 10 minutes

return bacon

last 2 minutes add fresh parmesan

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

17:14 “Dance for You (Instrumental Version)” - Revel Day

31:08 “Pebble’s Song (Good Friends) (Instrumental Version)” - Revel Day

42:09 “Paper Crane” - Revel Day

59:29 “Full Time Job (Instrumental Version) - Mindme

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Breaking Barriers

Betina and Jen emphasize the need to practice compassion in these turbulent times and the role that action has played in their growth journeys. They recognize how much they’ve changed as they’ve each broken through personal barriers.

0:00 Intros

0:33 Cultural Temp check

6:30 Dad’s approval arrives at last

9:30 Bad news sticks like velcro / good news slides off like teflon

10:40 Joy jar / God box

12:35 Move a muscle, change a thought

14:08 Betina’s motivation hack

17:02 Betina’s hard-won relationship with her youngest daughter

26:15 Jen is filing notes in her “parent file”

28:35 Jen’s in the parenting honeymoon phase

31:30 Backstory question: Learning from our differences / How Betina & Jen met

39:23 Fans say Jen is limitless/Betina agrees

42:56 Betina delivers a great product to Jen

45:42 Old school spam phone calls

47:55 Betina’s daughter calls 89x/day

51:04 Jen surrounds herself with people of faith

57:40 Jen in her social media gangsta days

61:05 The growth of embracing people with differing opinions

65:05 The opposite of addiction is connection

67:04 Cultural fusion recipes

Recipes:

Joyce’s Honey Harissa Chicken

Chicken marinade:

Minced garlic, harissa, honey, paprika, salt, pepper, small amount of tzatziki

Grill marinated chicken, brushing on additional honey at the end

Salad:

Cucumbers, tomatoes, red onion, olives, crumbled feta, parsley, small amount EVOO, salt, pepper

Roast any Mediterranean flatbread stovetop with garlic powder, salt, and pepper

Serve with tzatziki sauce and a side of rice

Unfortunately, the Oxtail Birria taco recipe is too long and could not be fully uploaded. Feel free to email us if you want us to send it to you.

Music Credits:

00:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

13:53 “One Too Many” - Ryan James Carr

28:09 “Happy Accident” - Daniel Fridell

42:34 “Glitterati” - Fox Morrow

54:35 “Conman” - Tyra Chantey

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