In this episode of The Trade Talks Podcast, I sit down with Terrence Chan, a Canadian plumber, business owner, and content creator who's redefining what it means to be in the trades. From failing engineering school to building a thriving plumbing company, Terrence shares how he went all in on plumbing—and then flipped the script by launching a social media brand and a media company. We talk about the mindset it takes to grow, how he scaled his business with automation instead of headcount, and the hard lessons he learned from toxic workplaces. He also opens up about starting with nothing, learning leadership, firing friends, and why your attitude matters more than your resume. This one’s for anyone who’s ever thought, “There’s more to this job than just turning a wrench.” _________________________________________________________________________________________________

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