This week on “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac speak with Sam Sawyer, S.J., president and editor in chief of America Magazine, to discuss the recent controversy surrounding Cardinal Blase Cupich’s decision to present Senator Dick Durbin with a “lifetime achievement award” for his work in defense of migrants.

Ashley, Zac and Sam discuss:

- Senator Durbin’s decision to decline the award in the face of mounting controversy

- How the “consistent ethic of life” should shape Catholic political engagement

- Pope Leo’s surprising, yet pragmatic, response to the situation

In “As One Friend Speaks to Another,” Zac and Ashley sit down with Jim Martin, S.J., and Joe Hoover, S.J., to talk about the late Robert Redford’s Oscar-winning film, “Ordinary People.”

Links for further reading: 

- Sen. Durbin declines lifetime achievement award after backlash for pro-choice position

- Pope Leo weighs in on controversy over Cardinal Cupich giving Sen. Durbin immigration award

- Chicago archdiocese’s plan to award Senator Durbin for immigration work meets pushback over abortion

- Remembering Robert Redford and ‘Ordinary People,’ his devastating, nearly perfect film

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