This week, in episode 164, Shawn Busse and Jay Goltz discuss a recent Business Journal report that a lot of business owners are feeling burned out. Why is that, and what can owners do to avoid it? And have either Shawn or Jay been there? Plus: Shawn brings us up to date on the leadership transition he’s initiated, and—believe it or not—Jay has had another revelation about ESOPs. Also, do business owners need better regulation or no regulation? And which regulations are annoying Shawn and Jay the most right now? For Shawn, it’s the nightmare of having employees in multiple states and having to figure out and comply with the various rules of each of those states.

Show Notes:
You can learn more about Shawn Busse’s September event Catalyst.
Here’s the Business Journal article about business owner burnout.
Here’s the podcast where Phil Hayes offers a fresh perspective on what it takes to do an ESOP.
Here’s the conversation where Jim Kalb talked about his own ESOP.
Here’s the most recent Dashboard conversation where I talk about regulation with Gene Marks.