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This episode contains descriptions of emotional abuse. It's not suitable for all audiences, especially those sensitive to themes of dating violence or domestic abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast focuses on authentic experiences without sensationalism. Our goal is to educate on the many forms of abuse in relationships to promote safer lives. We avoid judgments and encourage empathy for survivors navigating complex ups and downs.
Sarah Hanson's true story exposes the classic red flags of emotional and domestic abuse in a relationship—from early warning signs she ignored to escalating manipulative behaviors such as gaslighting.
The relationship she had with her partner helped her realize she had also had similar experiences emotionally dealing with her father when she was growing up at home.
This survivor account reveals how abusers groom, control, and manipulate.
Once free from her abuser, Sarah was able to reclaim her life and move on. She channeled her pain and recovery into a new book that has a release date of April 28, 2026. "Conjuring the Hurricane" can be found at all major book outlets.
If you're experiencing intimate partner abuse, coercive control, or narcissistic abuse—or if you suspect someone you care about is—Mae's story offers critical perspective on spotting red flags early, breaking free, and finding support. You're not alone, and recognizing the patterns can be the first step toward safety and recovery.
Domestic violence resources are available 24/7—reach out if you need help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
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Content Warning & Disclaimer
These stories contain detailed accounts of emotional abuse, psychological abuse, and narcissistic abuse. They include descriptions of alcohol and drug misuse.
Please proceed with caution. This episode may be highly triggering for survivors of abuse and trauma. Listener discretion is strongly advised.
I offered to listeners who recorded their stories that I would put them into an episode. This is the second time I have done this. It takes plenty of courage to sit with your phone, hit the record button and tell a story of domestic abuse.
In this case, two women stepped up and came through. You will hear what they tell us abuse the abuse they suffered in this episode.
Stories like these highlight critical warning signs of narcissistic abuse and emotional manipulation. Recognizing these red flags early can help you or someone you love avoid years of pain and escape the “conveyor belt of chaos” that toxic relationships often become.
If you’re in an abusive relationship, dealing with trauma from childhood, or supporting someone who is, this episode offers validation, insight, and hope.
Host: Bill Mitchell
If you're experiencing intimate partner abuse, coercive control, or narcissistic abuse—or if you suspect someone you care about is—Riel's story offers critical perspective on spotting red flags early, breaking free, and finding support. You're not alone, and recognizing the patterns can be the first step toward safety and recovery.
Domestic violence resources are available 24/7—reach out if you need help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We conducted this interview a few years ago. We decided to bring it back now. It is a valuable discussion on how law enforcement can be helpful years after horrible crimes have taken place. This is worth an investment of your time.
J R Waltemyer is a valuable contact at the Office of Victim Advocate (OVA) in Pennsylvania. OVA is the state agency with the authority and duty to advocate for the rights and needs of crime victims.
OVA accomplishes their mission through victim services, which includes post-sentencing notifications of offender status and movements within the Department of Corrections and the parole system; restorative justice programs that promote resilience and healing; and they are currently developing new initiatives around crime prevention.
OVA envisions a Pennsylvania in which justice thrives. They collaborate closely with fellow state agencies and community groups to develop and promote trauma informed programs.
You will find this episode useful if you want to know how the system works to help all survivors of violent crimes.
Bill Mitchell
If you're experiencing intimate partner abuse, coercive control, or narcissistic abuse—or if you suspect someone you care about is—Mae's story offers critical perspective on spotting red flags early, breaking free, and finding support. You're not alone, and recognizing the patterns can be the first step toward safety and recovery.
Domestic violence resources are available 24/7—reach out if you need help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This episode contains graphic descriptions of emotional abuse, physical abuse, and explicit intimate sexual situations. It's not suitable for all audiences, especially those sensitive to themes of dating violence or domestic abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast focuses on authentic experiences without sensationalism. Our goal is to educate on the many forms of abuse in relationships to promote safer lives. We avoid judgments and encourage empathy for survivors navigating complex ups and downs.
Mae Scott's harrowing true story exposes the classic red flags of narcissistic abuse and domestic violence in marriage—from early warning signs she ignored before the wedding, to escalating manipulative behaviors, gaslighting, and the devastating role of toxic in-laws who enabled and exploited her trust.
This powerful survivor account reveals how abusers groom, control, manipulate, use, and discard their victims, often with family complicity. Mae trusted her in-laws completely—only to discover they played a key part in the psychological and emotional entrapment.
Mae Scott's book, "An Embarrassment of Pandas" is available on Amazon.
If you're experiencing intimate partner abuse, coercive control, or narcissistic abuse—or if you suspect someone you care about is—Mae's story offers critical perspective on spotting red flags early, breaking free, and finding support. You're not alone, and recognizing the patterns can be the first step toward safety and recovery.
Domestic violence resources are available 24/7—reach out if you need help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This episode contains graphic descriptions of emotional abuse, physical abuse, and explicit intimate sexual situations. It's not suitable for all audiences, especially those sensitive to themes of dating violence or domestic abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast focuses on authentic experiences without sensationalism. Our goal is to educate on the many forms of abuse in relationships to promote safer lives. We avoid judgments and encourage empathy for survivors navigating complex ups and downs.
Mae Scott's harrowing true story exposes the classic red flags of narcissistic abuse and domestic violence in marriage—from early warning signs she ignored before the wedding, to escalating manipulative behaviors, gaslighting, and the devastating role of toxic in-laws who enabled and exploited her trust.
This powerful survivor account reveals how abusers groom, control, manipulate, use, and discard their victims, often with family complicity. Mae trusted her in-laws completely—only to discover they played a key part in the psychological and emotional entrapment.
Mae Scott's book, "An Embarrassment of Pandas" is available on Amazon.
If you're experiencing intimate partner abuse, coercive control, or narcissistic abuse—or if you suspect someone you care about is—Mae's story offers critical perspective on spotting red flags early, breaking free, and finding support. You're not alone, and recognizing the patterns can be the first step toward safety and recovery.
Domestic violence resources are available 24/7—reach out if you need help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Before diving in, please note:
This episode contains graphic descriptions of emotional abuse, physical abuse, gun violence, and explicit intimate sexual situations. It's not suitable for all audiences, especially those sensitive to themes of dating violence or domestic abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast focuses on authentic experiences without sensationalism. Our goal is to educate on the many forms of abuse in relationships to promote safer lives. We avoid judgments and encourage empathy for survivors navigating complex ups and downs.
If you're dealing with dating abuse or know someone who is, this episode provides valuable perspectives on recognizing warning signs and seeking help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Before diving in, please note:
This episode contains graphic descriptions of emotional abuse, physical abuse, gun violence, and explicit intimate sexual situations. It's not suitable for all audiences, especially those sensitive to themes of dating violence or domestic abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast focuses on authentic experiences without sensationalism. Our goal is to educate on the many forms of abuse in relationships to promote safer lives. We avoid judgments and encourage empathy for survivors navigating complex ups and downs.
If you're dealing with dating abuse or know someone who is, this episode provides valuable perspectives on recognizing warning signs and seeking help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Before diving in, please note:
This episode contains graphic descriptions of emotional abuse, physical abuse, gun violence, and explicit intimate sexual situations. It's not suitable for all audiences, especially those sensitive to themes of dating violence or domestic abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast focuses on authentic experiences without sensationalism. Our goal is to educate on the many forms of abuse in relationships to promote safer lives. We avoid judgments and encourage empathy for survivors navigating complex ups and downs.
If you're dealing with dating abuse or know someone who is, this episode provides valuable perspectives on recognizing warning signs and seeking help.
Are you a survivor ready to speak out?
Email Bill Mitchell at [email protected] to share your experience on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
Get the WHEN DATING HURTS Book:
Explore more through the WHEN DATING HURTS book by Bill Mitchell, available on Amazon in paperback, eBook, and audiobook formats. It's an essential resource for understanding domestic violence and dating safety.
Bill Mitchell
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
For a long time, I have wanted to share some chapters from my WHEN DATING HURTS book with you. I am happy to have this for you now.
This is part two of a two lengthy episodes. In this case, lengthy means I am sharing a lot...
The WHEN DATING HURTS book is a memoir about my daughter Kristin's murder in 2005 due to dating violence. Reviews describe it as having short, gripping chapters that mix raw family story with lessons learned.
It's more narrative than structured—think chronological heartbreak plus practical takeaways. If you're interested in this book (that can save lives), find it on Amazon in audiobook, paperback, and e-book.
People mostly call it "heartbreaking—like, gut-punch level sad—because it's a dad's raw account of losing his daughter Kristin to dating violence back in 2005".
Readers say it hits hard emotionally, leaves them in tears, but also feels eye-opening and urgent. They love how Bill mixes the family's grief with real talk on red flags—like controlling stuff or jealousy—that everyone misses until it's too late.
On Amazon it's sitting at 4.9 stars from over a hundred reviews; folks write things like "this book will save lives" or "it stole my heart and educated me."
Goodreads averages around 4.5, with people urging parents, teens, even teachers to read it—phrases like "must-read for every parent" or "I feel like I knew Kristin" pop up a lot. And, "It's not just sorrow; it's inspiring too". Readers admire the Mitchells turning pain into advocacy, saying it empowers you to spot abuse early and speak up.
They say, "Super recommended if you're into true stories that double as wake-up calls."
I hope you read my book. I wrote it for you even though we have never met. We cannot bring back Kristin, but she would want you to live a long life and be happy.
Thank you for your attention to the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Bill Mitchell
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
For a long time, I have wanted to share some chapters from my WHEN DATING HURTS book with you. I am happy to have this for you now.
This is part one of a two lengthy episodes. In this case, lengthy means I am sharing a lot...
The WHEN DATING HURTS book is a memoir about my daughter Kristin's murder in 2005 due to dating violence. Reviews describe it as having short, gripping chapters that mix raw family story with lessons learned.
It's more narrative than structured—think chronological heartbreak plus practical takeaways. If you're interested in this book (that can save lives), find it on Amazon in audiobook, paperback, and e-book.
People mostly call it "heartbreaking—like, gut-punch level sad—because it's a dad's raw account of losing his daughter Kristin to dating violence back in 2005".
Readers say it hits hard emotionally, leaves them in tears, but also feels eye-opening and urgent. They love how Bill mixes the family's grief with real talk on red flags—like controlling stuff or jealousy—that everyone misses until it's too late.
On Amazon it's sitting at 4.9 stars from over a hundred reviews; folks write things like "this book will save lives" or "it stole my heart and educated me."
Goodreads averages around 4.5, with people urging parents, teens, even teachers to read it—phrases like "must-read for every parent" or "I feel like I knew Kristin" pop up a lot. And, "It's not just sorrow; it's inspiring too". Readers admire the Mitchells turning pain into advocacy, saying it empowers you to spot abuse early and speak up.
They say, "Super recommended if you're into true stories that double as wake-up calls."
I hope you read my book. I wrote it for you even though we have never met. We cannot bring back Kristin, but she would want you to live a long life and be happy.
Thank you for your attention to the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast.
NOTE:
If you are a survivor and want to share your story of abuse on the WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast, please email me: [email protected]
The WHEN DATING HURTS book (in paperback, eBook, and audiobook) can be found on Amazon.
HELPFUL RESOURCES:
• National Domestic Violence Hotline – The Hotline.org – Call 800-799-SAFE
• LoveIsRespect – Call 866-331-9474
• RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network) – RAINN.org – Call 800-656-4673
• SUICIDE HELPLINE: Call 988
Thank you for listening to our WHEN DATING HURTS podcast,
Bill Mitchell
WhenDatingHurts.com
DISCLAIMER:
The WHEN DATING HURTS Podcast is providing this platform for information to be shared. We do not state with any certainty that anything is true or untrue. Understand that what you hear is the viewpoint of the people sharing. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only. Any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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