AI, power trips, and what comes after late stage capitalism. Comedian Reggie Watts joins us to unpack how billionaires are trying to control the systems they built, why government is not a business, and how community and joy can outlast fear and shock tactics. We also debate psychedelics and ketamine, including the difference between sacred practice and shortcut culture, and how altered states can shape creativity, improv, and consciousness. Along the way they hit simulation theory, Star Trek’s utopian future, Brandon Sanderson fantasy, Burning Man stories, and why Reggie believes kindness is a form of intelligence.

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Executive Produced by: Kartik Chainani

Executive Produced by: Ford Bowers, Samah Tokmachi

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Production Supervisor: Mike O'Brien

Theme Music by: Marcos Moscat

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