Matt and Dave talk to gay Hollywood power couple Blake Lee and Ben Lewis about the Emmys, high-end grocery stores, What We Do In The Shadows, what Ben did in the shadows of a Toronto gay club when he was 16, the pressures of the closet on a relationship, the Kermit-Miss Piggy power dynamic, the lies we tell our parents, and the gifts Blake’s parents gave school administrators to keep him from getting thrown out. Also: Dave has a Catholic college queer homecoming to get to.