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Why (And How) To Have Hard Conversations, With Sarah Stewart Holland of Pantsuit Politics


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Between the reversal of Roe and the Jan. 6 hearings, it's been a wild few weeks. We're all experiencing big feelings right now, and the tendency to lash out - or retreat into silence - is hard to overcome. But Sarah Stewart Holland believes there is another way, though she admits it's a difficult path to walk. Sarah, along with her business partner Beth Silvers, host the Pantsuit Politics podcast, where they engage in thoughtful, empathetic conversations about the issues we face today. In our conversation, Sarah is honest about how difficult it can be to ask questions and really listen to other people’s opinions and experiences, but how it’s absolutely crucial to living in a democracy - and making the change you want to see.















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About Sarah Stewart Holland



Sarah Stewart Holland is co-host of the Pantsuit Politics podcast, featured in the New York Times, the Atlantic, and named by Apple Podcasts as one of the Best Shows of 2021. She is also the co-author of Now What? How to Move Forward When We're Divided (About Basically Everything) (2022) and I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening): A Guide to Grace-Filled Political Conversation (2019), which was featured on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, received starred trade reviews, and continues to be in demand with readers, book clubs, and libraries. Sarah, with her co-host Beth Silvers, speaks frequently to universities, businesses, and civic organizations about improving political dialogue. 



Sarah attended Transylvania University in Lexington, Kentucky, and then received her Juris Doctor from American University, Washington College of Law. Sarah began her career as a congressional staffer  campaign aide, before working in blogging and social media. She lives in Paducah, Kentucky, where she served a term as a city commissioner and volunteers as a Court-Appointed Special Advocate for children. Sarah shares life with her spouse, Nicholas, and children Griffin, Amos, and Felix.



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Instagram- Sarah Stewart Holland (@bluegrassred) Facebook- Sarah Stewart Holland | FacebookWebsite- Pantsuit Politics (pantsuitpoliticsshow.com)Pantsuit Politics Podcast- https://koji.to/k/5PJdPodcast Instagram- Pantsuit Politics Podcast (@pantsuitpolitics) Books- Beth and Sarah's Books (pantsuitpoliticsshow.com)



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