The Derivative

Why hasn’t “VOL” done better amidst stock market losses in 2022 with Logica’s Wayne Himelsein


Listen Later

Despite the market being down substantially this year, bouncing around inside of bear market territory, it's been a bit of a challenging year for long-vol traders. Simply put, the Vol spikes we’ve become accustomed to getting with a down market haven’t materialized as much.  While the retracement of vol on bounces higher in stocks has remained. it's hard not to think, "What is going on?!'  And that's why we're putting Wayne Himelsein, CIO at Logica, in the 'Vol' seat to share what he's witnessed in 2022.

In our final episode of 2022, Jeff and Wayne delve into a variety of topics like; the lack of Vol sensitivity, contagion risks, and feedback loops, digging into Logica's straddle strategy, paying for long-term exposure, problems with machine learning, and is there enough data for machines and quants to work with when it comes to volatility? Tune in to see if this new Vol regime is our new normal — SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-02:23 = Intro

02:24-05:28 = Sunny California from "the bunker"

05:29-27:00 = A difficult year for Long-Vol traders: Lack of sensitivity, contagion risks, feedback loops & is selling Vol protection

27:01-41:00 = Digging into Logica's strategy: Put spreads, Gamma Scalping & protecting what you're trying to protect

41:01-51:22 = Skew vs Distribution of Return: Panic events, debunking the signal & the skew price is lower than it used to be

51:23-01:00:21 = Is there enough data to cipher the VIX? / Problems with machine learning

01:00:22-01:12:03 = Seeking strength in the straddle

01:12:04-01:16:35 = Hottest take: Vol, there is no normal

Other Derivative Episodes with Wayne:

Wayne Himelsein: The Human Behind the Hedge Fund

The Volvengers: Wayne Himelsein (Iron Man) & Mike Green (Captain America) on the derivative

Follow along with Wayne on Twitter @WayneHimelsein and check out Logicafunds.com for more information

Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.

Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The DerivativeBy RCM Alternatives

  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7

4.7

50 ratings


More shows like The Derivative

View all
Top Traders Unplugged by Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Top Traders Unplugged

579 Listeners

Odd Lots by Bloomberg

Odd Lots

1,779 Listeners

Macro Voices by Hedge Fund Manager Erik Townsend

Macro Voices

3,072 Listeners

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing by The Idea Farm

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

932 Listeners

Hidden Forces by Demetri Kofinas

Hidden Forces

1,442 Listeners

Grant’s Current Yield Podcast by Grant's Interest Rate Observer

Grant’s Current Yield Podcast

677 Listeners

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry by Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

808 Listeners

Alpha Exchange by Dean Curnutt

Alpha Exchange

82 Listeners

The Market Huddle by Patrick Ceresna & Kevin Muir

The Market Huddle

359 Listeners

Mutiny Investing Podcast by Jason Buck

Mutiny Investing Podcast

34 Listeners

Excess Returns by Excess Returns

Excess Returns

67 Listeners

Macro Hive Conversations With Bilal Hafeez by Bilal Hafeez

Macro Hive Conversations With Bilal Hafeez

98 Listeners

Forward Guidance by Blockworks

Forward Guidance

274 Listeners

Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart by Adam Taggart | Thoughtful Money

Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart

365 Listeners

Monetary Matters with Jack Farley by Jack Farley

Monetary Matters with Jack Farley

96 Listeners