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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:41 - What is digital credit & what problem does it solve?
• 5:17 - How the carry trade works
• 8:48 - Daily dividends & dividend structure
• 10:52 - Downside risk & balance sheet protection
• 16:18 - The strongest critique of digital credit
• 19:32 - Michael Saylor selling bitcoin
• 27:03 - Bitcoin price action vs. bullish headlines
• 31:32 - Where is digital credit taking capital from?
• 36:44 - Banks, Jamie Dimon & systemic risk
• 38:52 - Strive vs. Strategy
• 42:38 - Too much bitcoin held by public companies?
• 48:33 - Strive's mission & the road ahead