This is our full interview with Alap Shah, recorded live on TBPN.

We discuss whether AI is triggering a structural decline in white collar jobs, why agentic AI may compress platform margins at companies like DoorDash and Uber,  how labs like Anthropic and OpenAI could capture enormous value as public markets struggle, and what political and economic solutions might prevent an AI driven contagion.

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to podcast platforms immediately after.

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