Better Than Fine With Darlene Marshall

Why Sleep is More Valuable Than Any Drug – A Deep Dive with the FBI’s Sleep Expert


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Trouble falling asleep? You’re not alone—and you might be missing a critical piece of the puzzle.

In this episode of the “Better Than Fine” podcast, host Darlene Marshall sits down with featured guest, renowned FBI sleep expert, Dr. Leah Kaylor, to go beyond the usual talk of blue light and supplements. Prepare for a deep dive into the psychological factors that sabotage your sleep and discover powerful strategies you probably haven’t heard before.

Wonder why even the most disciplined first responders and military pros struggle with rest? Dr. Kaylor reveals how trauma, anxiety, and stress shape sleep for everyone—and shares cutting-edge mental techniques, like EMDR and brain spotting, that could fundamentally change how you approach your nights. Whether you’re battling a racing mind or just curious why “falling face first into bed” isn’t working, this episode blends science, relatable stories, and actionable tips.

Is scrolling your phone the enemy? Are “quick fixes” making things worse? And what if sleep was so valuable, you couldn’t afford to buy it as a pill? Explore the real-life consequences of sleep deprivation—from cognitive performance to emotional well-being—and learn why a news or device detox might be the thing your brain has been begging for.Join us to rethink your wind down routine, discover your own sleep motivators, and finally get the rest you deserve—straight from the source trusted by the FBI. Listen now for a transformative look at sleep you won’t find anywhere else!

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