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Why You Can't Put Your Phone Down (And How to Actually Fix It) | Lazy Leverage #116
Jon and Peter break down the two-step system Jon uses to put the phone down on weekends: uninstall the apps and route notifications through an AI agent so you never touch the dopamine loop directly. Also: Sagan's first in-person AI event in San Diego, and the 7 rules Jon and his team are using to actually make money with AI (as opposed to McKinsey slides and info-seller grift). If you can't leave your phone in the other room, this one's for you.
Chapters:
References Mentioned in This Episode -
Books:
Reese, J. (2011). Make the bread, buy the butter: What you should and shouldn't cook from scratch--over 120 recipes for the best homemade foods. Free Press.
Podcasts Referenced:
EconTalk with Russ Roberts: https://www.econtalk.org/
Stuff You Should Know: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-stuff-you-should-know-26940277/
People & Frameworks Cited:
Justin Roff-Marsh, Sales Process Engineering (Ballistix): https://ballistix.com/
Cedric Chin's Commoncog: https://commoncog.com/
Tools Mentioned in the Episode:
Codex (OpenAI): Jon's iMessage-to-Codex agent workflow
Claude Code: Jon's daily driver
Beehive: Peter's newsletter platform (used in his Twitter DM automation)
Related Reading:
Jon's full recap of the Sagan X in-person AI event with 13 takeaways from the room: https://lazyleverage.beehiiv.com/p/we-hosted-an-in-person-ai-event
Follow Jon: https://x.com/MatznerJon | https://jonmatzner.com/
Follow Peter: https://x.com/pslohmann | https://www.peterlohmann.com/
🌎 Brought to you by Sagan Passport: https://saganpassport.com
Schedule a free consulting session: https://saganpassport.com/free-consultation
👷 Join Crane, Peter's community for property management operators: https://www.joincrane.co/
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyLeverageofficial
Follow Lazy Leverage on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/763FBQuzXqTqJ3mb837WbW
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By Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann
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Jon and Peter break down the two-step system Jon uses to put the phone down on weekends: uninstall the apps and route notifications through an AI agent so you never touch the dopamine loop directly. Also: Sagan's first in-person AI event in San Diego, and the 7 rules Jon and his team are using to actually make money with AI (as opposed to McKinsey slides and info-seller grift). If you can't leave your phone in the other room, this one's for you.
Chapters:
References Mentioned in This Episode -
Books:
Reese, J. (2011). Make the bread, buy the butter: What you should and shouldn't cook from scratch--over 120 recipes for the best homemade foods. Free Press.
Podcasts Referenced:
EconTalk with Russ Roberts: https://www.econtalk.org/
Stuff You Should Know: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-stuff-you-should-know-26940277/
People & Frameworks Cited:
Justin Roff-Marsh, Sales Process Engineering (Ballistix): https://ballistix.com/
Cedric Chin's Commoncog: https://commoncog.com/
Tools Mentioned in the Episode:
Codex (OpenAI): Jon's iMessage-to-Codex agent workflow
Claude Code: Jon's daily driver
Beehive: Peter's newsletter platform (used in his Twitter DM automation)
Related Reading:
Jon's full recap of the Sagan X in-person AI event with 13 takeaways from the room: https://lazyleverage.beehiiv.com/p/we-hosted-an-in-person-ai-event
Follow Jon: https://x.com/MatznerJon | https://jonmatzner.com/
Follow Peter: https://x.com/pslohmann | https://www.peterlohmann.com/
🌎 Brought to you by Sagan Passport: https://saganpassport.com
Schedule a free consulting session: https://saganpassport.com/free-consultation
👷 Join Crane, Peter's community for property management operators: https://www.joincrane.co/
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyLeverageofficial
Follow Lazy Leverage on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/763FBQuzXqTqJ3mb837WbW
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