“Real businesses create their own source of funding and don’t have to ask anyone for permission to exist.” That’s the philosophy of Bryce Roberts, co-founder of Indie.vc.

They’re introducing us to the world of permissionless entrepreneurship. Because when you’re seeking funding every 12-18 months, you’re living at the mercy of venture just to exist.

They’re saying it doesn’t have to be this way. Indie.vc wants to be a part of the last, or even the only, round of funding founders take to launch into profitability. Because believe it not, there are many big, successful businesses that didn’t start with a seed round.

In fact, if you talk to a lot of these successful bootstrapped companies, they would argue the best thing that ever happened to them was that they didn’t take that seed round early on. On today’s episode, Bryce explains why it’s time to shift your focus and determine whether or venture is a fit for you.