In this gripping breakdown from Hidden Killers, host Tony Brueski and veteran defense attorney Bob Motta dive deep into one of the most damaging elements in the Karen Read trial: her own ever-changing story. Across months of interviews, voicemails, and secondhand accounts, Karen Read has made conflicting statements about the last time she saw her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O’Keefe. From claiming she saw him go into the house, to saying he was in the general vicinity of the curb, to suggesting she might have clipped him with her car — the versions are endless.

Motta takes a nuanced approach, explaining how defense attorneys have to carefully navigate these inconsistencies. Do they try to explain them away? Or do they lean into them as signs of trauma and confusion from a woman who doesn’t actually remember what happened? Tony, however, takes a more psychological view — arguing that Read's constant shifting might not stem from confusion, but from manipulation and a fear of losing her image.

They debate whether jurors, as emotional and flawed humans, can separate confusing testimony from actual guilt — and whether someone who acts like they have “consciousness of guilt” is more likely to be convicted even if there’s no clear proof of intent. Is Karen Read lying to save herself? Or is she a blackout witness to her own worst night?

This episode sets the tone for the entire discussion around narrative control, narcissistic traits, and what happens when your own mouth becomes your worst enemy in a murder trial.

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