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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz interviews the directing, producing, and writing team of Will Speck and Josh Gordon. This talented duo has made their mark across various media, directing feature films such as Blades of Glory, Office Christmas Party, and Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile. They've also created iconic commercials, including the Geico caveman and gecko campaigns, and ventured into television with their animated series Hit-Monkey on Hulu. The pair discusses their journey from film school to becoming successful filmmakers, their experiences with test screenings, and insights into their creative process across different mediums.

Film School and an Early Partnership (02:00)
The pair share how they met in NYU film school and started collaborating. The discussion turns to their first jobs in the industry and their transition from New York to Los Angeles.

Blades of Glory and an Intense Audience Screening (9:41)
Kevin asks Will and Josh about the making of Blades of Glory and their first test screening experience.

“Even a Caveman can do it” -- Commercial Work (20:37)
The pair discuss their work on famous commercials like the Geico caveman and gecko commercials, and how commercial work has influenced their filmmaking.

Recent Projects and Creative Growth (30:41)
Josh and Will share details about their animated series Hit Monkey on Hulu and their reflections on making the musical film Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile.

Career Reflections and Advice to Young Filmmakers (32:09)
Josh shares his proudest achievement: an impactful PSA on organ donation and Will discusses the importance of their partnership.

Upcoming Projects and Industry Outlook (41:00)
The pair share their thoughts on the future of the film industry and discuss their upcoming projects, including an adaptation of "The Wedding People" with Nicole Holofcener.

Will Speck and Josh Gordon offer a unique perspective on navigating the film industry as a writing, directing, and producing duo. Their experience across different mediums - from commercials to feature films to streaming content - demonstrates the value of maintaining a varied portfolio of work while continually pushing creative boundaries and nurturing a productive partnership. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guests: Will Speck and Josh Gordon
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Will Speck and Josh Gordon:
Speck Gordon, Inc.: https://www.speckgordon.com/home
IMDB (Josh Gordon): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0330347/
IMDB (Will Speck): https://ww

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