Backpacker, theologian, recovering opera singer, and aspiring Hiker Trash Nate Jones sits down with Doc to talk some trail. Settle in and buckle up as the two tackle some big questions and topics, like the Fiery Furnace rule talk, deep reflection, hiking with a Jansport, Infinite Jest, functional hiking, quadripedal bliss, bacon bits, Dr. Daddy Mountain, and the importance of seeking moments of needless beauty.