XChateau Wine Podcast

XChateau Wine Podcast

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XChateau Wine Podcast episodes

  • Bringing More People Into Wine w/ Jacki Strum, Wine Enthusiast Media

    With ~2M monthly sessions on their newly unified commerce and media website, Wine Enthusiast continues to be a beacon for the wine industry. Jacki Strum, President of Wine Enthusiast Media, details their new wine review platform and global wine travel directory, democratizing access to wine and wine experiences globally. These initiatives help bring more people into the world of wine, including the younger generations, a critical part of building a vibrant wine industry.  


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Covid altered the business model, led to re-structured organization and unified media and commerce divisions on wineenthusiast.com

    2022 - WE paused reviews for emerging wine regions to recalibrate systems

    Existing tasting process

    • 1 of 2 publications that review every wine blind (high cost), taste in flights w/in region and price brackets
    • Need to store, archive, organize wines, set up tastings (in paper bags with numbers), and hire reviewers
    • 50% of reviews are done at HQ (imported wines), and West Coast wines are done locally
    • The manual process of filling out a pdf and putting that into the box with wines, manually inputted into J Guide (legacy system, 20 years old), then stored and organized for tasting

    New tasting platform (Sept 2024) - anyone can submit a wine for review and all will be reviewed

    • New digital platform - bar code scanners, printed tabs, can track shipments and deliveries, a more fluid database
    • Reduces large volume of questions from people submitting wine (can track digitally)
    • It has the same # of reviewers, but a more flexible infrastructure can allow for more wines to be tasted
    • $65/SKU processing fee - all reviewers charge in some way (e.g., require subscription, membership, or advertisement)
    • 6-month processing time (same as before) - hope to reduce this over time, based on the schedule of reviewers
    • Printed reviews selected by the tasting dept, all scores published online for free

    Tasting platform benefits for new and small wineries 

    • Opens up reviews to all regions across the globe
    • The US market is still heavily score-driven for distribution (some major retailers, e.g., Costco, Kroger, Albertsons, require scores from major publications)
    • Helps with tasting room and local distribution sales

    Media trends

    • Print is still doing well (e.g., books outsold movie tickets last year), and magazine subscriptions are increasing (free tote bags help)
    • Advertising up slightly 
    • Digital media is growing, with a targeted advertising focus
    • Events - biggest growth area - launched Sip of South America, Sip of Italy, and biggest event is Wine Star Awards (25th Anniversary in SF this year)
    • TikTok now allows alcohol advertising, getting Gen Z engaged with wine knowledge

    New travel division for WE

    • Tasting room directory, partnered w/ Tock - 1st agnostic travel global wine travel guide
    • Leverages Tock’s wineries as launching list (~1,200 wineries, CA focused), building out globally with WE relationships (~100 wineries reached out in 1st month to be included)
    • The 2nd most trafficked page on the site

    WE revenue mix

    • Covid - led to explosive commerce growth
    • Today - back to 2019 levels, ~80% commerce / ~20% media

    Getting Gen Z engaged with wine

    • Print enables content absorption without ad bombardment (e.g., book reading bars in NYC)
    • Need to change content for each channel to target audience (e.g., Google as people’s “secret diary,” article on how to hold a wine glass became a top 5 article)
    • Influencers, infographics, video - bring in new consumers (e.g., wine & potato chip parking article led to major influencer doing every pairing on TikTok)


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    35 min
  • Opening Minds with Wine & Yoga, Morgan Perry, Vino Vinyasa

    During a career sabbatical from wine PR at a yoga teacher retreat, Morgan Perry tried combining wine education and yoga with great success. Her classmates practically forced her to found Vino Vinyasa, which has blossomed into six cities. With a focus on creating great experiences rather than selling wine, Morgan has created a platform where people learn about wine and end up seeking out the wines featured in classes. 


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Morgan’s background - wine PR, been in wine for ~15 years, became a yoga teacher in 2017

    Wine & Yoga synergies

    • Both are about mindfulness - yoga and the wine tasting process
    • Not for hard-core wellness or yoga people

    Vino Vinyasa 

    • For the yoga teacher exam, the teacher encouraged something different, tried yoga & wine, and got a fantastic reception
    • 6 cities - NYC (2017), Austin (2018), Nashville, Chicago, LA, Houston

    Vino Vinyasa programming

    • 45 min Vinyasa yoga (all levels), followed by wine tasting of 2 wines
    • Taste wine after yoga - people are relaxed and have “yoga brain” in a quiet, focused environment → people may be better tasters
    • Embed wine facts during yoga
    • A comparative tasting of 2 wines, usually themed (e.g., Rose, Sauvignon Blanc)
    • All instructors have a wine background (min WSET 1)
    • 2-3 classes/month, 20-25 people/class for intimacy (capped at 30)
    • ~30 classes/themes developed to date
    • Very intentional class structure, certain poses not suitable for teaching

    Business model

    • The core business is to get people to do more classes and events, not be overly salesy with wine
    • Do private events (90% are bachelorette parties)
    • Sell swag (t-shirts), co-branded bottles
    • Look to be good value (avg class price $30) vs. regular yoga classes (avg ~$20-25, range from $10-35 for drop in class)

    Students often seek out wines after classes

    Wine selection for classes

    • Venue dependant, venues carry liquor licenses
    • City Winery (NYC) - chooses the wines based on their selection
    • Other venues - can get wines donated for classes
    • Private events - Customers can select wines/themes
    • Have worked with PR clients for wines
    • Some wineries sponsored virtual classes during Covid

    Marketing

    • PR background has helped and got early press (e.g., digital Good Morning America), mostly wine market
    • Email newsletter
    • IG is the best channel, does some boosting, and is focused on growth during Covid (~11k followers)
    • Digital marketing has focused on both wellness and wine people
    • ~15-20% of people have attended multiple classes

    Private events

    • Bachelorette parties, birthdays, corporate events (e.g., Binny’s in Chicago)
    • The focus area for growth
    • Same format as classes

    Wellness & wine market

    • Other wine + yoga classes are not educational; some are tied to multi-level marketing wine programs that have long sales pitches
    • Sees more yoga at wineries
    • They have been approached by a couple of spas for partnerships, but the economics were not favorable yet (i.e., yoga teachers often are not paid well, ~$30/class)


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    35 min
  • Evolution, not Revolution w/ Giampiero Bertolini, Biondi Santi

    Taking over an iconic estate can be both exciting and terrifying. When EPI purchased the iconic Brunello di Montalcino producer Biondi Santi in 2017, they asked Giampiero Bertolini to take over as CEO. Giampiero was excited to join the “Champions League” of wine but also had to convince the local community that this outside investment would be good. He delves into how Biondi Santi has been pushing toward creating more value for the brand while maintaining its core essence.  


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Biondi Santi’s history

    • Family invented Brunello di Montalcino
    • Founded in 1888 - Ferruccio Biondi Santi had a vision of quality wine with longevity during a time when people focused on quantity with wine as part of the diet
    • Bottled in Bordeaux-shaped glass (a sign of quality) vs. standard Tuscan fiasco
    • Tancredi Biondi Santi - one of the top consulting winemakers of the time, was asked to write appellation rules in 1967
    • Franco Biondi Santi (“the doctor”) - selected the BBS11 clone in the ‘70s and organized a 100-year vertical tasting (1888-1988) in 1994 with important wine writers that boosted the image of Brunello. One writer gave the 1891 vintage 100 points

    La Storica (wine library) - has all vintages since 1888, releases one old Riserva with a current Riserva each year

    Path to Iconic Status

    • The vision of the family - be good winemakers, high-quality
    • In the global market regularly → elevated the Biondi Santi to a different level
    • The wine offered to Queen Elizabeth II in 1967 was a favorite of Frank Sinatra’s

    EPI acquired Biondi Santi in 2017 and installed Giampiero as CEO; the community was skeptical of French owners for an iconic estate had to convince neighbors by being transparent about what they were doing at the estate

    • Before the takeover, prior 20 years, the business was not run well
    • Rebuilt global distribution, did not have US distribution
    • Re-connected with trade, critics, and consumers/collectors

    What they kept the same

    • Reinforced market position
    • Style of the wines
    • What they changed
    • New vineyard philosophy (regenerative), replanted vineyards to improve quality, conducted soil studies
    • Increased communications and more selective to the right people and thproperht channels
    • Managed pricing to reposition the brand to increase demand

    Keeping the brand fresh

    • want s to be closer to the trade and consumer, spend more time in the market
    • Storytelling of what is happening at the estate, not just the history, but today’s actions that protect the future
    • La Voce di Biondi Santi - started 3 years ago, selects one word each year that is part of their philosophy (this year is “respect”); creates novel/audiobook based on a keyword (e.g., Joanne Harris, author of Chocolat) and podcasts with winemaker and Giampiero around the keyword

    The most effective initiative so far - repositioning the brand by increasing price → gave higher credibility and put the brand up another step, old vintages increasing in price on the secondary market, high demand on Liv-ex (one of few growing while price increasing), one of the top 35 wines in the world on Liv-ex

    Growth for Biondi Santi = value growth; volume is complex to grow

    Value-driven by increasing distribution globally to rarify the brand further, not just taking price, but increasing value, which is a consequence of many conditions, and not rushing value creation in the market

    Biondi Santi is now in 2.0 after 1st five years, and the next step is to increase the quality of its presence in the world and be closer to partners and consumers

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    30 min
  • Wine Business, The Italian Way w/ Stevie Kim, Vinitaly

    In part 2 with Stevie Kim, Managing Director of Vinitaly, she explains how parent company Veronafiere invested in the various Vinitaly products and allowed her to experiment.  Stevie also dives into her prolific content strategy, including the Italian Wine Podcast, which has over 2M downloads to date and where she sees value in marketing.  


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Italian Wine Podcast

    • Initially created to develop content for VIA candidates
    • Something different every day - up to 9 episodes published / week
    • Example shows: Ambassador’s Corner - Italian Wine Ambassadors go deep with their favorite Italian producer; US Market Focus - different perspectives on the US wine market
    • Now ~2,000 episodes, they had to switch podcast distributors to Megaphone (Spotify) as most only host up to 500 episodes
    • Audience - early on, was ~80% US & English speaking countries (the podcast is in English), and VIA students
    • ~6M total downloads with a broader audience than Vinitaly attendees

    Funding the Vinitaly complex

    • Significant investment by Veronafiere, which is majority-owned by the city of Verona
    • Italian Trade Agency subsidizes some events - e.g., pays for transport for judges for 5 Star Wines
    • Some ticket sales and sponsorship revenue
    • Podcasts funded by Stevie personally

    Veronafiere saw value in investing in Vinitaly products

    • Wanted to become more international
    • Allowed Stevie to experiment with new products and invest in them

    Stevie’s team has a large staff of content producers (video, social media)

    • Document everything they do
    • Create tons of content, of which only ~50% is used
    • Stevie believes in being prolific - promotes discovery

    Marketing products

    • Never advertise on LinkedIn - it is too expensive
    • Instagram - sometimes does advertising, conversion doesn’t happen on IG, try to drive to the website to convert, more for attention vs. conversion
    • Facebook - most wine producers on FB, more effective and efficient, can get ~$100k subscription revenue from ~$5k ad spend
    • Less concerned with “vanity” metrics like views and engagement, more interested in conversions

    Looking forward - wants to bring more people to Italy and Vinitaly - it is the best way to convert people to Italian wine


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    42 min
  • The Vinitaly Marathon w/ Stevie Kim, Vinitaly

    As the world's most prominent Italian wine fair, Vinitaly attracts ~4,000 producers and turns the entire city of Verona into Vinitaly. As Managing Director of Vinitaly, Stevie Kim has built a vast, international community around Vinitaly and its many other products surrounding it, becoming a "Vinitaly Marathon." Stevie goes into depth about why each product was started and how it plugs into the entire Vinitaly ecosystem in part 1 of this 2-part series. 


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Stevie's background: born in Korea, grew up in New York, married an Italian, and moved to Italy; Veronafiere recruited her to lead Vinitaly

    The Vinitaly "Marathon" (2025 schedule)

    • Vinitaly Int’l Academy ("VIA") - 5 days 
    • 5 Star Wines - 3 days (April 1-3)
    • OperaWine - 1 day (April 5)
    • Vinitaly - 4 days (April 6-9)

    Also, do events outside of Verona (New York, China, Hong Kong)

    Vinitaly - established in 1967 in Verona

    • It started as ½ pavilion, now 14 pavilions
    • Largest Italian wine event, primarily B2B
    • The entire town of Verona becomes Vinitaly
    • Vinitaly in the city events for consumers
    • ~4k wineries (~60% of export market), accessories, winemaking equipment
    • About building long-term relationships - "the Italian way" - not just about doing business vs. Prowein's more business-oriented

    OperaWine

    • Partnered with Wine Spectator as the most influential entity for Italian wine
    • The winemaker or principal must pour
    • By invitation only, each producer chosen (130 producers) gets 10 invites

    VIA

    • 1,300 candidates so far, 398 certified Italian Wine Ambassadors
    • Used to do Vinitaly tours and masterclasses globally, now transformed to VIA
    • Developed based on Stevie's experience building a medial master's program that created a deep community
    • Faculty - Sarah Heller MW, Attilio Scienza - vine geneticist
    • Difficult exam, deep and wide syllabus primarily based on grape varieties, uses Italian Wine Unplugged 2.0 as the textbook
    • Has a course that includes 4 days of tasting ~300 wines before the exam
    • Requires a group video project to ensure ambassadors can speak about wines
    • Creates a big community around candidates and ambassadors - more important than the material itself

    5 Star Wines (fka Vinitaly Int’l Competition)

    • Gets international judges & VIA community opportunity to taste and rate Italian wines
    • Helps producers - 90+ scores get a diploma during Vinitaly to display, which helps attendees navigate booths
    • Did a masterclass for producers w/ top scoring wines on why they scored highly, which helped them understand quality better
    • Every tasting panel has an enologist, enabling the international community to connect with Italian winemakers

    Wine2Wine business forum (Nov - after harvest, before Christmas)

    • The goal is to help producers better prepare for Vinitaly
    • Historically, they had 40-70 workshops on business topics
    • 2023 - did tastings where wine critics taught how they assess and rate wines
    • 2024 - getting an overhaul, no parallel session, 8 plenary sessions, 6 tastings, new structured networking - rooms led by specialists w/ 10-12 attendees

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    46 min
  • The Market for Brunello w/ Giampiero Bertolini, Biondi-Santi

    Written by the Biondi-Santi family in 1967, the appellation rules for Brunello di Montalcino are some of the strictest in Italy. This has led to Brunello vineyard land becoming some of the most expensive in the country and led Brunello on the pathway to becoming one of the world's iconic wine regions. Giampiero Bertolini, CEO of Biondi-Santi, explains the terroir, regulations, and market for Brunello di Montalcino and his belief in pursuing value and quality over quantity. 


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Giampiero's background - studied economics, worked at Procter & Gamble, entered the wine industry by chance

    Brunello di Montalcino - hill in Tuscany, b/w coast and Apennine mountains, protected by mountains and with altitude

    • There are lots of different soils, and each location on a hill is different
    • Sangiovese - only appellation in Italy with only one varietal, >150 clones (Biondi Santi uses 46 clones)
    • 1967 - 78 producers; today >250

    Quality has improved over the last 20 years, with more emphasis on viticulture

    1970s - Franco Biondi Santi trialed 40 clones and chose BBS11 for their soil

    Regulated production system

    • Created by the Biondi-Santi family in 1967
    • Limited yields (Brunello - 8 tons/ha; Rosso - 9 tons/ha)
    • Strict aging requirements - barrel min 12 months (Rosso), 24 months (Brunello, Riserva); bottle min 4 months (Rosso), 24 months (Brunello, Riserva); Brunello min 5 years total
    • Samples tasted by the Commission panel
    • Appellation expanded ~20 years ago, now frozen at 2,100 ha
    • 2023 - Rosso appellation expanded (550 → 900ha)

    Biondi-Santi has a target style for their wines and matches vineyard lots to create style (~60% Brunello, 25% Rosso, remainder Riserva when made)

    Some producers make single vineyards now (both Rosso and Brunello), but Biondi-Santi is not focused on that

    The most expensive vineyard land in Italy ~₠1M/ha, a significant rise in 2015 when the 2010 vintage was released

    Foreign investors (France, Brazil, Belgium, Swiss) are increasing the value of the land

    Market for Brunello

    • The biggest is the US, developed by producer Banfi
    • Other vital markets: Switzerland, the UK (higher-end wines), Hong Kong, Italy

    Sales Channels

    • Rosso - more casual restaurants, wine bars, BTG
    • Brunello - 50/50 on and off-premise
    • Riserva - mostly high-end retail as it is for collectors

    Future of Brunello - hopes the focus is on value and quality and not higher volume


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    29 min
  • Do Everything with Passion w/ Arianna Occhipinti

    Making natural wines right out of university, Arianna Occhipinti, founder of Azienda Agricola Occhipinti, has quickly built a strong following globally, particularly in the US. Discovered by Louis/Dressner at a natural wine show around Vinitaly, Occhipinti’s focus on expressing terroir through natural farming and winemaking and doing everything with passion has led to continued success.   


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    She finished university in Milan, started making wine in 2004, and is interested in natural wines that speak of terroir

    Based in Vittoria, Sicily, she makes wines from reds (Frappato, Nero d’Avola), whites (Albanello, Zibbibo, Grillo)

    • Started w/ 1ha farm in Fosso di Lupo (Frappato, Nero d’Avola)
    • Cultivates a pluricultural farm for biodiversity - vineyards, orange, pear, wheat, vegetable garden
    • 2006 - built a small winery
    • 2013 - moved to another farm in Bombolieri

    Terroir - limestone (lots of fossils), red sand, 250m above sea level, 8 km from the sea, 8 km from mountains, windy and dry -> lead to low pH wines

    1st meeting with Louis/Dressner in 2006 at a Vinitaly adjacent natural wine fair

    • 1st presentation of wines
    • Kevin McKenna tried the wines and got Jules Dressner to try them, where they immediately asked if they could import them
    • Still working together, they are “very pure people”
    • One of the 1st Italian producers that Louis/Dressner represented

    1st trip to US (“Real Wine Tour”) - Louis/Dressner organized a young group of producers, with a lot of energy that toured the US

    Traction partly from being an early mover in the natural wine movement

    At the time, San Francisco (and Paris) were leading the world for natural wines

    • Natural wine bars (e.g. - Terroir Wine Bar)
    • Leading restaurants (A16, Bar Agricole)
    • LA (Domaine LA) and NY followed
    • Sommeliers promoted the wine and created strong relationships

    Traction was a combination of wine quality and consistency, restaurant promotion, and good communications

    Convincing people who know a lot about wine (e.g., sommeliers) helped

    In the US market ~1x / year

    Louis/Dressner did a great job of selecting wine producers and having good relations with their clients

    Advice for others - do everything with passion, potentially spend more time on trips to spend more time with people


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    35 min
  • Transmitting Values through Generations w/ Alessia Antinori, Primum Familiae Vini

    As the 26th generation family member to run Marchesi Antinori, Alessia Antinori, VP and Winemaker, knows the benefits of being a family-owned business, particularly around transmitting family values from generation to generation. These insights and values are shared as members of an elite group of family-owned wineries, the Primum Familae Vini. Alessia digs into the structure of the PFV, its purpose, and its activities to promote family businesses globally. 


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Antinori Family - started in wine in 1385 as wine merchants in Florence and became a producer in the Chianti Classico region

    • Alessia is part of the 26th generation, the 27th generation also in the company
    • Father was part of the important 25th generation - in the 60s/70s changed towards a quality mindset vs. quantity focus for most of Italy, e.g., launched Tignanello (1st Super Tuscan)
    • “Blending tradition and innovation”
    • Family members are not obliged to join the company but grow up around the winery

    Primum Familiae Vini (“PFV”)

    • Founded in 1993 by Joseph Drouhin and Miguel Torres wineries
    • Current members include Vega Sicilia, Pol Roger, Chateau Mouton
    • 12 members, family-owned, old world (the exception was Opus One w/ Mondavis and Mouton Rothschild)
    • When a family sells, a new winery is invited, often from a missing region (e.g., Jaboulet replaced by Beaucastel to keep a Rhone producer), look for high quality, shared values, and families get along (including children)
    • Exchange one case of wine with each other every Christmas

    Family businesses are important to: 

    • Transmit values from generation to generation (e.g., for Antinori - passion, integrity, obsession for quality)
    • Can make decisions for future generations (long-term mindset)

    Two committees in the PFV - marketing & technical

    • Meet 3-4x / year virtually or in person
    • Meet at least 2x/year (1 annual meeting - 2024 in Oregon hosted by Drouhins)

    Annual Meeting

    • Up to 100 people, several generations per family
    • Business meetings, lunches, dinners
    • Each year, a different family hosts an event and then becomes President of PFV for the following year
    • Topics - technical (Torres often has good topics), issues in family businesses, sales, legal issues, future PFV planning
    • Mostly, internal PFV presenters

    Promotion/marketing events

    • 2024 - after Oregon hosted a press tasting in Napa
    • Usually, press, charity, or walk-around tastings

    PFV Family Prize - “the most beautiful company of the year”

    • Family-owned businesses, not only wine, must have 3 generations working in the business
    • Receive financial and market support/cross-promotion
    • 1st year was a Belgian violin company
    • Given every two years
    • Do an event together with the press to present the award

    PFV is funded by an annual fee from members

    Collector Cases

    • Haute Couture case - 1 back vintage, iconic wine from each winery, only for charity, includes the PFV Passport, which is an invitation to visit each winery with lunch or dinner with a family member (many wineries closed to the public)
    • Limited Edition case - 1 recent vintage wine for each winery can buy for €25k

    Advice for other family wine businesses - be very passionate about the work, be curious and passionate


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    35 min
  • Partnering through Common Values w/ Matteo Lunelli, Ferrari Trento

    With 100+ years of history, many accolades, and distinctive mountain-grown sparkling wines, Ferrari Trento is still often confused with the car maker Ferrari. Matteo Lunelli, President and CEO, explains how Ferrari Trento leverages partnerships, including Formula 1, The Emmys, and others, to tell its story and grow its audience globally.  


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Ferrari Trento overview

    • Founded in 1902 by Giulio Ferrari
    • 1952 - Bruno Lunelli (Matteo’s grandfather) acquired the winery
    • Trento DOC in NE Italy, in the middle of the Alps, famous for the Dolomite mountains
    • A leading brand for luxury sparkling wine in Italy
    • Methodo Classico - 2nd fermentation in the bottle
    • Mainly Chardonnay, Pinot Noir
    • Mountain sparkling wine - gets sunlight, but big diurnal shift to keep acidity
    • Pioneer of Trento DOC, started denomination, now 60 wineries
    • Won Sparkling Producer of the Year several times
    • All estate vineyards are certified organic, winery carbon neutral

    Il Ferrari (masculine, the wine) vs La Ferrari (feminine, the car); separate companies, no familial relation

    Formula 1 (“F1”) partnership - “Official Toast of F1”

    • Started as a dream, Matteo passionate about F1
    • A team member who used to work at Heineken, which sponsored F1, started the conversation in 2019
    • Share common values of search for excellence, tradition, and innovation
    • Started in April 2021
    • Jeroboam used to celebrate wins on the podium, served in Paddock Club (hospitality)
    • F1 exploded with Drive to Survive movie on Netflix
    • New races started in Miami and Las Vegas
    • Formerly used Champagne, 1st Italian wine used to celebrate
    • ROI is measured by growth in international sales (US sales 3x, TX 10x, Las Vegas huge growth since 2020), increased attention from key international accounts

    Key benefits of F1 partnership: 

    • Visibility - social media key, particularly pics with drivers showing bottles during the celebration (easier to do for sparkling wine)
    • Paddock Club - >5,000 guests in Las Vegas, serves fine dining during race weekends, high-end clientele experience Ferrari Trento, fine dining, and F1
    • Create customer experiences - invite some customers to F1
    • Race weekend activations - organize and partner with events around the race weekend, replaced prior market work
    • Best article - Financial Times “Why there will always be a Ferrari on the podium of F1”

    F1 label series - limited, special editions

    • Big interest in Jeroboams, celebrate like F1 champions
    • F1 Editions - dedicated to some of the iconic Grand Prix, the shape of the racetrack on the label, very successful in race markets (e.g., Suzuka in Japan had a long time to buy wine)
    • Creates a collectible wine

    Emmy Awards sponsorship

    • Ended w/ Covid, sponsored for ~5 years
    • Served at Governor’s Ball just after the show, ~5k guests, black tie in LA
    • Helped in the CA market and positioned Ferrari as a lifestyle brand
    • Timed well w/the rise of importance of TV (e.g., Netflix/streaming movement)
    • Only 1x/year vs 20 races/year w/ F1
    • 1st non-Champagne organized blind tastings w/ prior sponsors

    Creating value w/ partnerships requires activation and communication; the rule of thumb is to invest at least 1x sponsorship fee in activations

    Mass market partnerships like F1 benefit Non-Vintage more than vintage/reserve wines

    • Vintage/reserve wines sold mostly to collectors, highly limited supply (only 60k bottles of Giulio Ferrari/year), and need different communication channels

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    51 min
  • Promoting New Zealand through White Wine w/ Charlotte Read, NZ Winegrowers

    With 88% of their wine exported, 93% of which is white, white wine is a big deal for New Zealand. Charlotte Read, General Manager of Brand for New Zealand Winegrowers, explains how they have been focused on promoting white wine globally. This includes campaigning for a white wine emoji, focusing on the the month of May with Sauvignon Blanc, Pinot Gris, and Chardonnay days, and focusing on their motto - “NZ wine, all together unique.”


    Detailed Show Notes: 

    Charlotte’s background - dairy industry, lived in Asia and the UK, in wine for the last 20 years

    NZ Winegrowers

    • Est 2002,1,400 members (50% wineries, 50% growers)
    • Only unified winemaking and grape-growing organization
    • Funded by compulsory levies
    • Mission: to enhance the reputation of NZ wine
    • 5 key workstreams: Brand, Environment, Efficacy, Research, People

    Tagline - “NZ wine, all together unique”

    Supports the 10 wine regions

    NZ exports 88% of their wine to 100 countries

    Top markets - US (~40% of exports), UK, Australia

    Focus markets - Canada, China

    Focused on white wine (93% of exports) for May - 3 events, Sauvignon Blanc Day, Pinot Gris Day, and Chardonnay Day

    White wine emoji - leading a campaign over the last few years to have this implemented

    • Kendall Jackson previously campaigned for it
    • Changed the glass shape to focus on white wines
    • Gotten great press
    • Reached >20M people in 2022, 79M in 2023

    NZ has significant wine diversity - >50 grape varieties planted, SB #1, Pinot Gris, Pinot Noir (largest red, 3% of exports)

    NZ wine style - purity of fruit, backbone of acidity

    Marketing metrics used - estimated advertising value, reach and engagement, social media engagement, toolkit downloads

    Lighter Wine Research Project - 7 years, $16M project w/ 18 wineries and government, led to the early launch of no and low alcohol wines (e.g., Giesen 0%, Kim Crawford Illuminate)

    Overall, wine imports to the US are down, but NZ has outpaced the market; premium price ($15+) grew 15% in 2023

    Targeting a group of “Generation Treaters” (mostly Millennials) - 1/10 of drinkers, but ⅕ of spend

    Can cross-promote white wines - 63% of SB drinkers drink Pinot Gris, 67% of SB drinkers drink Chardonnay

    NZ as innovators - moved to screw caps early (early 2000s), fast adopter of concrete eggs, experimenting with green tea as a preservative, no alcohol wine residual alcohol used for gin

    Highest impact marketing - influencing the influencer (e.g., a WSET partner, work with Sommelier associations)

    Major events

    • Has a booth at ProWein and Vinexpo Hong Kong
    • Hosts International Sauvignon Blanc Conference every 4 years (2027)
    • Hosts Pinot Noir Conference in between (Feb 2025)
    • Sommit - summit for sommeliers, a master class setting

    Trends to watch

    • Sustainability (NZ has 96% of vineyards certified sustainable)
    • Packaging innovation
    • Growing wine tourism

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    38 min

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