My guest today is Yael Schonbrun, PhD. Yael is a clinical psychologist, assistant professor at Brown University,  and co-host of Psychologists Off the Clock.  Yael’s academic research explores the interaction between relationship problems and mental health conditions. She has authored chapters in several books and has written dozens of scientific articles. In her private practice, writing, and podcasting, Yael uses evidence-based science to help individuals and couples learn to manage work, parenting, and marriage in more effective and fulfilling ways. She draws upon treatments that integrate ancient Eastern philosophy with scientifically backed practices. Yael’s writing on work, parenting, and relationships has appeared in places the New York Times and Wall Street Journal. Her new book is Work, Parent, Thrive: 12 Science-Backed Strategies to Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm, and Grow Connection (When Everything Feels Like too Much).

Some of the topics we explore include:
- What is was like for Yael to bring her own life experience into Work, Parent, Thrive
- The difference between approaching problems “inside out” vs “outside in” 
- The challenges associated with balancing multiple important life roles
- The books, ideas, and people that influenced Yeal’s new book
- The importance of removing things from our lives instead of exclusively adding
- How ACT is integrated into Yael’s clinical work with couples
- We end by exploring both of our experiences podcasting 

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Yael’s website: https://yaelschonbrun.com/

Work, Parent, Thrive: https://www.shambhala.com/work-parent-thrive.html

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