Join us as Tom convos with one of our authors, Ben! We catch up with Ben from his last ConvoCast appearance and talk about his message on chosen family at our recently held YOBBERS retreat. We also riff about proportional haircuts, Ben’s upcoming blog on coming out to people you love, and where (and with whom) a pastor get his support. Also, who's YOB’s pastor: Ben or Will??

Enjoy the episode! And always remember: you are not alone. Even the sparrow…stays at home.

• Ben's YOB posts

Theme music: "Growing Pains" by Layup, 100% clearance through Musicbed.