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“It’s like these men are being held in a bubble as science marches forward.” Mike tells Sarah how one of history's most unethical experiments came crashing down. Digressions include the history of penicillin, the power of TV movies and the mysterious diagnosis of "Satan's crabs." This episode is happier than the last one, but still contains a lot of racist language and some grisly Nazi examples toward the beginning.

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• Under the Shadow of Tuskegee: African Americans and Health Care
• Examining Tuskegee: The Infamous Syphilis Study and Its Legacy
• Bad Blood: The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
• Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
• The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: Medical Research versus Human Rights
• “There Wasn't a Lot of Comforts in Those Days:” African Americans, Public Health, and the 1918 Influenza Epidemic
• The Study Of Untreated Syphilis In The Negro Male
• Racism and Research: The Case of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study
• The 1972 Ebony article
• The Discovery of Penicillin—New Insights After More Than 75 Years of Clinical Use
• Syphilis Victims in U.S. Study Went Untreated for 40 Years
• The Rhetoric of Dehumanization: An Analysis of Medical Reports of The Tuskegee Syphilis Project

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Mike tells Sarah about the longest "non-therapeutic" experiment in medical history. Digressions include deep fried ice cream, Kato Kaelin and a hot-yoga cabinet. As a warning, this episode contains long quotes from eugenic memos and detailed descriptions of medical racism. We promise to do a happier episode soon.

Huge thanks to Susan Reverby, Vanessa Northington Gamble and Lillian Head for helping Mike with the research for this episode!

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• Under the Shadow of Tuskegee: African Americans and Health Care
• Examining Tuskegee: The Infamous Syphilis Study and Its Legacy
• Bad Blood: The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
• Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
• The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: Medical Research versus Human Rights
• Rethinking the Tuskegee Syphilis Study: Nurse Rivers, Silence and the Meaning of Treatment
• “There Wasn't a Lot of Comforts in Those Days:” African Americans, Public Health, and the 1918 Influenza Epidemic
• The Study Of Untreated Syphilis In The Negro Male
• Nurse Eunice Rivers: Marching to Doctor's Orders in the Tuskegee Syphilis Study in the Jim Crow South
• Racism and Research: The Case of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study
• The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: Medical Ethics, Constitutionalism, and Property in the Body
• The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: Biotechnology And The Administrative State

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This week, Sarah makes a Nancy Grace-style argument against the prosecution. Digressions include '90s romantic comedies, Betty Broderick and flatscreen TVs.


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Sarah tells Mike about her new foray into Dad Studies and, for the second time this week, discusses a horror movie about families from 1975 and sings a little.

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Sarah tells Mike about the real-life conspiracy written between the lines of a 1970s horror novel. Digressions include "Rosemary's Baby (again), Disney World (of course), a brief history of the American pharmaceutical industry and a long recipe for stew.

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• "She Touched Me" from "Drat! The Cat!" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69_Fx_YVuU
• The Carousel of Progress- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmrSiJTMf7s
• The Magic Worlds of Walt Disney – National Geographic August 1963 -- https://disneyavenue.wordpress.com/category/national-geographic-aug-63/
• "More Work for Mother" by Ruth Schwartz Cowan https://www.google.com/books/edition/More_Work_For_Mother/9YM1tAEACAAJ?hl=en
• "The Age of Anxiety" by Andrea Tone https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Age_of_Anxiety/sgkXBQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=age+of+anxiety&printsec=frontcover
• "The Battered Parent Syndrome" ad for Milton - http://www.bonkersinstitute.org/medshow/fembps1.html
• "The Magic Bullet" by Heather Radke, on Miltown - https://www.topic.com/the-magic-bullet
• "The Family That Built an Empire of Pain" by Patrick Radden Keefe, on the Sackler family -- https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain
• "Dopesick" by Beth Macy https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dopesick/23BBDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=dopesick+macy&printsec=frontcover

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In another "mini" episode that accidentally turned mega, Mike tells Sarah about the Wayfair conspiracy theory and the sketchy statistical screenshots that have shown up in its wake. Digressions include "Inside Llewyn Davis," Miranda Priestley and (sigh) Jeffrey Epstein. This episode contains, we're sorry to say, detailed descriptions of child abuse.

We recommend listening to this episode alongside our "Human Trafficking" episode from last year, which contains much more context for understanding this issue: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/human-trafficking/id1380008439?i=1000465289965

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Mike tells Sarah how a silly sports promotion galvanized a reactionary movement. Digressions include “Charlotte’s Web,” Jane Fonda and German-language musicals. Songs are dissected; the honor of David Bowie and late-night salad bars are defended.

Huge thanks to historians Tavia Nyong'o, Eric Gonzaba, Luis-Manuel Garcia and Gillian Frank for helping Mike with this episode!

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• Tavia Nyong'o's "I Feel Love: Disco and Its Discontents"
• Gillian Frank's excellent article on disco and his delightful podcast
• Luis-Manuel Garcia's alternate history of club culture and dissection of the gay left's opposition to disco
• Alice Echols' "Hot Stuff"  
• Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton's "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life: The History of the Disc Jockey"   
• Tim Lawrence's "Love Saves the Day: A History of American Dance Music Culture, 1970-1979" 
• Peter Shapiro's "Turn the Beat Around: The Secret History of Disco"
• Undone did a great episode on Disco Demolition Night
• “The Flip Sides of 1979”
• “Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night,” the (fabricated) New York Magazine story that inspired “Saturday Night Fever”
• Tony Smith interview
• "Disco and The Queering of the Dance Floor"

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Mike tells Sarah about the most common forms of violence in America and how they differ (twist!) from what gets shown on TV. Digressions include Perry Mason, “It’s A Wonderful Life” and fruit-toting strategies. Mike appears not to understand the meaning of the term “order of magnitude.”

This episode contains descriptions of police violence; the last 15 minutes are just a huge bummer generally.

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• Monica Bell's "Anti-Segregation Policing"
• Daanika Gordon's "The Police as Place-Consolidators: The Organizational Amplification of Urban Inequality”
• "Homicide Investigations in Context: Exploring Explanations for the Divergent Impacts of Victim Race, Gender, Elderly Victims, and Firearms on Homicide Clearances"
• "Homicide Arrest Clearances: A Review of the Literature"
• "Assessing and Responding to the Recent Homicide Rise in the United States"
• "Can Homicide Detectives Improve Homicide Clearance Rates?"
• "Effective Police Homicide Investigations: Evidence from Seven Cities with High Clearance Rates"
• "Wrongful Convictions, Policing, and the 'Wars on Crime and Drugs'"
• "Did De-Policing Cause the Increase in Homicide Rates?"
• The DOJ's Antelope Valley Investigation
• "Explaining the Recent Decline in Domestic Violence"
• "Gender Differences in Patterns and Trends in U.S. Homicide, 1976–2015"
• "Police Responses to Violent Crime: Reconsidering the Mobilization of Law"
• "What Caused the Crime Decline?"

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This week, Sarah walks Mike through Nancy Grace’s prosecution of American juries. Cameos include Mark Geragos (again), O.J. Simpson (inevitably) and Jessica Hahn (thank God). Gus Van Sant’s masterpiece "To Die For" is discussed at length.

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Sarah and Mike tell Laura and Adrian about how we met, how we research and what we would say to Jessica Simpson if we ever met her.

Follow the The Feminist Present here: gender.stanford.edu/podcast

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