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This week, Nancy Grace makes her case against defense attorneys in general and Scott Peterson’s lawyer in particular. Digressions include Batman, tough on crime mixtapes and the Iraq War. After two and a half years, Sarah finds her first Satanic cult — but maybe the real Satanic cults are the friends we made along the way.

This episode summarizes the cases in Nancy Grace’s "Objection!," which include two child molestation and murder cases and a lengthy description of the autopsy report on the deaths of Laci and Connor Peterson.

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“It’s interesting that we became enthusiastic about ASL in the process of teaching it to a population that couldn’t benefit from it.”

Mike tells Sarah about a very special ape and the very problematic humans around her. Digressions include video dating, "Biography" and the terrible terrible inventor of the telephone. We start with a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT about the future of the show. Both co-hosts understand the difference between chimps, monkeys and apes but occasionally misspeak.

For a transcript of this episode (Thanks Andrea!), click here or copy-paste:
https://rottenindenmark.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/YWA-Koko-the-Gorilla-Transcript.pdf

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Links!

• Marcus Perlman, the researcher Mike interviewed!
• "Human and Animal Cognition: Continuity and Discontinuity"
• "In Memorium: Koko, A Remarkable Gorilla"
• "What Do Talking Apes Really Tell Us?"
•  “Monkey Business”
• “Talk to the Animals,” the 1980 Omni article
• “Animal Bodies, Human Minds: Ape, Dolphin, and Parrot Language Skills”
• 1979 New York Magazine article on Herb Terrace
• “The Last Distinction?”
• “The Sad Twilight of Koko The Gorilla and Her 'Mother'”
• “Why Koko Can’t Talk”
• “The Other Side of Silence: Sign Language and the Deaf Community in America”
• “The Education of Koko”

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Special guest Candace Opper tells Mike and Sarah how a grunge star became the protagonist in one of America's most persistent conspiracy theories. Digressions include Neil Young, protest songs and the coolest baby of the 1990s. Mike continues to mine his public school education for anatomically impossible rumors.

This episode contains detailed descriptions of suicide.

Pre-order Candace's book, check out her website or follow her Tweets! 

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“The criminal justice system should treat everyone like a white teenage girl whose future it’s concerned about disrupting.”

Sarah tells Mike about Melissa Drexler, the New Jersey teenager who (according to George F. Will) killed her newborn baby due to the influence of Metallica and the United States Supreme Court. Digressions include Baby Moses laws, “Citizen Ruth” and Ted Bundy’s political leanings. To the surprise of no one, we end up discussing true crime tropes in great detail.

This episode contains detailed descriptions of neonaticide.

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Sarah tells Mike how a superhero’s genesis was a supervillain’s origin story all along. In our new deep dive, we tackle Nancy Grace’s “Objection!” and debate how defendants should behave at trial, why prosecutors seem to make good daytime TV stars and whether Nancy really came to New York City with a curling iron and a dream.

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On June 17, 1994, the world screeched to a halt so 95 million Americans could watch a white SUV crawl through L.A. Today, we finally talk about the infamous Bronco chase, the men inside the car and the myth they left behind. Digressions include “The Fugitive,” Larry King and Jack Nicholson twice. Like previous episodes about the events of this day, this episode discusses suicidal ideation.

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“You really shouldn’t date people who go in thinking, ’This person has good bones but they’re a fixer-upper.’”

This week, we complete our Jessica Simpson book club with the appearance of a new man who triggers some old anxieties. Digressions include Dolly Parton, mom jeans and a forgotten Hollywood power couple. We talk about “Garden State” longer than we intended. Mike finally gets to tell the octopus story, which he thinks about all the time.

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In honor of Pride Month and revolutions past, present, and future, we're re-releasing our episode on the Stonewall Uprising. Let the sunshine in.

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“I’m being pulled into planet myth … and I like it here.”

Special guest Dana Schwartz tells Mike and Sarah how a short, brutal story became an enduring myth. Digressions include Titanic nostalgia, Princess Jasmine and Dr. Phil. A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Rasputin, Russia’s greatest love machine. 

Find Dana at her website or listen to her podcast!

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We discuss Jessica's reality-show marriage and its painfully ordinary end. Digressions include "Showgirls," "The Notebook" and Adam Levine. "Hamlet" makes an appearance; Willie Nelson and Lynda Carter give sage advice. Mike apologizes for things out of his control.

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