I've known and worked closely with Ben for twenty years now, and while I've always marveled at his skill and musical prowess, in the last few years I've been more and more impressed by who Ben has been becoming as a person. He's had to deal with some major changes, particularly around health, and I've learned so much from watching the fruits of the Spirit be so evident in that process.

I am always deeply encouraged by the time we get to spend together, and I'm thankful that we get to work together a lot again these days. I'm also glad that I get to bring so many of my artists into his orbit, and that I get to share this conversation with you.

For more info on Ben, check out his website:

http://www.benshive.com

Andrew's links:

http://www.andrewosenga.com/

https://www.everybodypivots.com/