National treasure, CoppaFeel! patron, all round person from the TV or radio you can see yourself talking a walk with, Dermot O’Leary knows he leads a fortunate life and is very grateful for it. 

In this week’s podcast Dermot and Kris discuss what shaped him into the person we see on our screens, and why a work ethic is so important but so is empathy and taking time to appreciate all that life gives you and all those you get to spend time with.

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