In this gripping first segment, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke—former chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program—joins Tony Brueski to explore the disturbing paradox at the center of the Gilgo Beach case: How did Rex Heuermann’s family not know?

Asa Ellerup, Rex’s longtime wife, has become one of the most controversial figures in the case—not because she’s accused of anything—but because of what she didn’t see. In this episode, Dreeke walks us through her emotional profile, behavioral patterns, and the psychological traits that may have made her the perfect partner for a man allegedly living a double life.

We examine key footage from Peacock’s The Gilgo Beach Killer: Secrets of a Serial Killer and discuss the FBI’s view of how people like Heuermann are able to manipulate those closest to them. Dreeke explains how serial predators often seek out partners who lack curiosity, who prioritize stability over questions, and who are more likely to rationalize away red flags in the name of love or loyalty.

Is Asa a victim herself? Was she chosen for her trust, her dependence, or simply her desire to believe the best in someone? This segment breaks down not just her words, but her behaviors, her relationships, and the life she thought she was living—until the knock on the door that changed everything.

If you’ve ever wondered how evil hides in plain sight, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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