In this conversation Kathryn and Hiroko talk about everything from heart rate variability to breathing, stress, cueing the breath in yoga and the brain. Hiro talks about how we can use heart rate variability to better understand our recovery and how we are doing. She speaks about the ways in which we can "try to relax" and that sometimes we try a bit too hard. Kathryn shares a personal story from the Mexico retreat and how she had to take a rest when she got home. Hiro gives some examples of how to begin a meditation practice, beginning with basic somatic awareness and describes how the exhale is like a mini vacation.

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