What can charities do to shift power to those with lived experience of the issues the charity addresses? And how can this approach improve fundraising? Lulu Smithwick is Senior Public Fundraising Manager at Refugee Action, and Shukry Adan is a former Expert by Experience Fundraising Advisor. In this, the second half of Rob’s recent interview, they talk about applying this approach to corporate partnerships, major donor fundraising and what Shukry did as guest editor of the supporters’ magazine. If you want to share this episode with others you think it would help, THANK YOU! And we would love to hear what you think. Lulu and Rob are on Linked In and on twitter Rob is @woods_rob.